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Attributes | |
ACN | 357656 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 320 |
ASRS Report | 357656 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 357651 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
WX was marginal with light to moderate freezing rain. Numerous aircraft going through de-ice/anti-ice procedures and blocking txwys. We were cleared to taxi via ramp wbound to tango and thence back-taxi on runway 9L to position and hold. While tower cleared other aircraft across the departure end of runway 9L we performed a static engine runup for 15 seconds. Just as we finished and looked back outside, we saw the ATR coming at us taxiing at a fairly high rate without any taxi lights on. Estimated range at this time 500-1000 ft. We gangloaded our lights and the ATR quickly stopped and veered to the edge of the runway. ATR pilot when queried by us said he had not seen us until we turned on all lights. (We had the position lights and rotating beacon on initially.) tower seemed confused about the situation and made no call to the ATR about us being in position for takeoff nor to us about the ATR taxiing towards us. This could easily have been a ground collision if we had not seen the ATR until a few seconds or less later.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-200 ACFT IN POS ON RWY WAITING TKOF IN MARGINAL WX AND NIGHT, FLC SAW AN ATR ACFT BACK-TAXIING ON THE RWY TOWARD THEM AT A FAST TAXI SPD. RPTR ACFT TURNED ON ALL LIGHTS AND THE OTHER ACFT VEERED TO SIDE OF RWY AND STOPPED. RPTR FLC QUESTIONED ACFT IF THEY HAD SEEN THEM AND THEY HAD NOT. TWR DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WITH EITHER ACFT, EVEN FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT.
Narrative: WX WAS MARGINAL WITH LIGHT TO MODERATE FREEZING RAIN. NUMEROUS ACFT GOING THROUGH DE-ICE/ANTI-ICE PROCS AND BLOCKING TXWYS. WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI VIA RAMP WBOUND TO TANGO AND THENCE BACK-TAXI ON RWY 9L TO POS AND HOLD. WHILE TWR CLRED OTHER ACFT ACROSS THE DEP END OF RWY 9L WE PERFORMED A STATIC ENG RUNUP FOR 15 SECONDS. JUST AS WE FINISHED AND LOOKED BACK OUTSIDE, WE SAW THE ATR COMING AT US TAXIING AT A FAIRLY HIGH RATE WITHOUT ANY TAXI LIGHTS ON. ESTIMATED RANGE AT THIS TIME 500-1000 FT. WE GANGLOADED OUR LIGHTS AND THE ATR QUICKLY STOPPED AND VEERED TO THE EDGE OF THE RWY. ATR PLT WHEN QUERIED BY US SAID HE HAD NOT SEEN US UNTIL WE TURNED ON ALL LIGHTS. (WE HAD THE POS LIGHTS AND ROTATING BEACON ON INITIALLY.) TWR SEEMED CONFUSED ABOUT THE SIT AND MADE NO CALL TO THE ATR ABOUT US BEING IN POS FOR TKOF NOR TO US ABOUT THE ATR TAXIING TOWARDS US. THIS COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN A GND COLLISION IF WE HAD NOT SEEN THE ATR UNTIL A FEW SECONDS OR LESS LATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.