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Attributes | |
ACN | 360232 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : san |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 10600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Viking (S3A) |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 360232 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to fly a 220 degree heading to intercept the localizer for runway 27 at lindbergh field and to descend down to 8000 ft. I was flying and the captain was working the radio. As we descended past 11000 ft, I started easing back on the control column to slow to 250 KTS at 10000 ft. We were passing through 10800 ft when approach control said we had traffic at 10 O'clock -- altitude unknown. The captain looked out his window for the traffic and noticed an S3 viking military jet approaching from our 8:30-9 O'clock position at about our altitude on a westerly heading. The captain quickly pulled up on the control column to avoid hitting the S3. He turned his head to the right which made me look out of my window on the right (R-2) and the window was full of the military S3. He appeared to be less than 100 ft below us. We had no warning on our TCASII proving that he did not have his transponder on. We were pretty much shook up and just leveled off for a min. We reported the incident to approach control and he had the captain telephone the supervisor upon landing. Hopefully the FAA will get to the bottom of the situation and find out why the S3 did not have his transponder on and why he was in class B airspace without talking to approach control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG WAS REDUCING AIRSPD WHILE DSNDING THROUGH 10600 FT. A MIL S3, INSIDE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC PASSED 100 FT DIRECTLY UNDER THEM FROM L TO R AFTER MLG TOOK EVASIVE ACTION CLB. THERE WAS NO TCASII WARNING SUGGESTING THAT THE MIL ACFT DID NOT HAVE THEIR MODE C OPERATING.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO FLY A 220 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LOC FOR RWY 27 AT LINDBERGH FIELD AND TO DSND DOWN TO 8000 FT. I WAS FLYING AND THE CAPT WAS WORKING THE RADIO. AS WE DSNDED PAST 11000 FT, I STARTED EASING BACK ON THE CTL COLUMN TO SLOW TO 250 KTS AT 10000 FT. WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 10800 FT WHEN APCH CTL SAID WE HAD TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK -- ALT UNKNOWN. THE CAPT LOOKED OUT HIS WINDOW FOR THE TFC AND NOTICED AN S3 VIKING MIL JET APCHING FROM OUR 8:30-9 O'CLOCK POS AT ABOUT OUR ALT ON A WESTERLY HEADING. THE CAPT QUICKLY PULLED UP ON THE CTL COLUMN TO AVOID HITTING THE S3. HE TURNED HIS HEAD TO THE R WHICH MADE ME LOOK OUT OF MY WINDOW ON THE R (R-2) AND THE WINDOW WAS FULL OF THE MIL S3. HE APPEARED TO BE LESS THAN 100 FT BELOW US. WE HAD NO WARNING ON OUR TCASII PROVING THAT HE DID NOT HAVE HIS XPONDER ON. WE WERE PRETTY MUCH SHOOK UP AND JUST LEVELED OFF FOR A MIN. WE RPTED THE INCIDENT TO APCH CTL AND HE HAD THE CAPT TELEPHONE THE SUPVR UPON LNDG. HOPEFULLY THE FAA WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SIT AND FIND OUT WHY THE S3 DID NOT HAVE HIS XPONDER ON AND WHY HE WAS IN CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT TALKING TO APCH CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.