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Attributes | |
ACN | 365450 |
Time | |
Date | 199704 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : isp |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 1330 flight time type : 340 |
ASRS Report | 365450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I had just departed frg on my way home. I requested a l- hand turn out from the runway heading (140 degrees) to my course of 050 degrees. Frg tower said they could not permit it due to heavy pattern traffic and was instructed to use 'standard departure.' I continued to climb on the runway heading of 140 degrees until I had passed 2500 ft MSL. Once clear of frg class D airspace, I turned to my direct course of 050 degrees and continued to climb to 3500 ft to cross long island sound. As soon as I had cleared the class D airspace, I called new york departure on the published frequency of 125.7 and informed the controller that I was 'with him.' he said to 'wait one' or something to that effect. I continued to monitor the frequency as I climbed to approximately 3800 ft MSL. My transponder was on and set to 1200. I listened but the controller was busy so I waited. As I crossed the shoreline of long island I changed frequency to 'white plain' center on 126.95 and requested flight following. A few mins later the controller informed me that I had flown through long island class C airspace without talking with them. He said I should have been below 1500 ft or above 4100 ft as I passed through their airspace. I made the mistake of thinking that by contacting new york departure I had no problem flying through the northwest corner of the class C airspace. The new york class B airspace is just a short distance from the class C airspace and is in the mode C veil. I did not realize that I had flown through the class C airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT FAILS TO ASSURE CONTACT WITH TRACON AND FLIES THROUGH CLASS C AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC. NOTIFIED OF ERROR WHEN HE CONTACTS CTR. CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF COM ERROR MISUNDERSTANDING.
Narrative: I HAD JUST DEPARTED FRG ON MY WAY HOME. I REQUESTED A L- HAND TURN OUT FROM THE RWY HDG (140 DEGS) TO MY COURSE OF 050 DEGS. FRG TWR SAID THEY COULD NOT PERMIT IT DUE TO HVY PATTERN TFC AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO USE 'STANDARD DEP.' I CONTINUED TO CLB ON THE RWY HDG OF 140 DEGS UNTIL I HAD PASSED 2500 FT MSL. ONCE CLR OF FRG CLASS D AIRSPACE, I TURNED TO MY DIRECT COURSE OF 050 DEGS AND CONTINUED TO CLB TO 3500 FT TO CROSS LONG ISLAND SOUND. AS SOON AS I HAD CLRED THE CLASS D AIRSPACE, I CALLED NEW YORK DEP ON THE PUBLISHED FREQ OF 125.7 AND INFORMED THE CTLR THAT I WAS 'WITH HIM.' HE SAID TO 'WAIT ONE' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. I CONTINUED TO MONITOR THE FREQ AS I CLBED TO APPROX 3800 FT MSL. MY XPONDER WAS ON AND SET TO 1200. I LISTENED BUT THE CTLR WAS BUSY SO I WAITED. AS I CROSSED THE SHORELINE OF LONG ISLAND I CHANGED FREQ TO 'WHITE PLAIN' CTR ON 126.95 AND REQUESTED FLT FOLLOWING. A FEW MINS LATER THE CTLR INFORMED ME THAT I HAD FLOWN THROUGH LONG ISLAND CLASS C AIRSPACE WITHOUT TALKING WITH THEM. HE SAID I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BELOW 1500 FT OR ABOVE 4100 FT AS I PASSED THROUGH THEIR AIRSPACE. I MADE THE MISTAKE OF THINKING THAT BY CONTACTING NEW YORK DEP I HAD NO PROB FLYING THROUGH THE NW CORNER OF THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. THE NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE IS JUST A SHORT DISTANCE FROM THE CLASS C AIRSPACE AND IS IN THE MODE C VEIL. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT I HAD FLOWN THROUGH THE CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.