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DC9 off runway 34 swf climbing to 9000 ft was advised of traffic at 10000 ft. Traffic reported the DC9 in sight at which time controller cleared aircraft to climb to 17000 ft. Got TCASII while climbing through 8000 ft to reduce rate of climb. Saw air carrier traffic pass with 800 ft and one and one half mi.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 365801 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ign airport : swf |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 365801 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 800 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Depart swf at XX47, runway 34, clearance to 5000 ft. Swf departure control cleared us to 9000 ft and switch to ZNY. ZNY advised, abc traffic at 2 O'clock and 10000 ft. Passing approximately 7000 ft, ZNY reported, abc has you in sight, will maintain visual, climb to 17000 ft. At approximately passing 8000 ft, TCASII advised 'traffic,' followed by 'reduce climb.' decreased angle and rate of climb per TCASII RA. Abc aircraft passed above and behind approximately 800-1000 ft and 1 1/2 NM. We were cleared by center to 17000 ft too soon. Aircraft separation, responsibilities, and terminology must be reviewed and disseminated to pilots and controllers as soon as possible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 OFF RWY 34 SWF CLBING TO 9000 FT WAS ADVISED OF TFC AT 10000 FT. TFC RPTED THE DC9 IN SIGHT AT WHICH TIME CTLR CLRED ACFT TO CLB TO 17000 FT. GOT TCASII WHILE CLBING THROUGH 8000 FT TO REDUCE RATE OF CLB. SAW ACR TFC PASS WITH 800 FT AND ONE AND ONE HALF MI.
Narrative: DEPART SWF AT XX47, RWY 34, CLRNC TO 5000 FT. SWF DEP CTL CLRED US TO 9000 FT AND SWITCH TO ZNY. ZNY ADVISED, ABC TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK AND 10000 FT. PASSING APPROX 7000 FT, ZNY RPTED, ABC HAS YOU IN SIGHT, WILL MAINTAIN VISUAL, CLB TO 17000 FT. AT APPROX PASSING 8000 FT, TCASII ADVISED 'TFC,' FOLLOWED BY 'REDUCE CLB.' DECREASED ANGLE AND RATE OF CLB PER TCASII RA. ABC ACFT PASSED ABOVE AND BEHIND APPROX 800-1000 FT AND 1 1/2 NM. WE WERE CLRED BY CTR TO 17000 FT TOO SOON. ACFT SEPARATION, RESPONSIBILITIES, AND TERMINOLOGY MUST BE REVIEWED AND DISSEMINATED TO PLTS AND CTLRS ASAP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.