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Approach controller gave an air carrier aircraft turns and descent for a vector to the ILS runway 16 at fuk without having the aircraft positively idented on his radar. The air carrier broke out of the clouds and realized they were too low and headed for higher terrain, so they made a climbing turn over the bay and were subsequently reidented and vectored for a normal ILS approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 366504 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fuk |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fuk tower : atl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing : missed approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 366504 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
During arrival we changed from en route to approach control frequency. Approach control gave us a turn to the southwest (about 240 degrees) and descent to about 7000 ft for an ILS approach to runway 16 at fuk. He subsequently gave a turn to 180 degrees and descent to 1800 ft and cleared us for the ILS to runway 16. We were IMC at the time and assumed approach had positively idented us on radar. About this time approach said he was not receiving our altitude readout and requested our altitude. We replied, and approach told us to stop squawk mode C (altitude). Approach then asked if we were receiving the ILS and we said no, not receiving it. Upon descending through about 3000 ft, we picked up the shoreline and higher terrain inland. Realizing we should not be this close to land having not yet intercepted the localizer, we initiated a right climbing turn back out over the bay. Almost immediately, the controller asked us to identify, and after receiving our reply, directed a turn to 360 degrees and climb to 6000 ft. This time under correct radar indent we completed a normal ILS and landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR GAVE AN ACR ACFT TURNS AND DSCNT FOR A VECTOR TO THE ILS RWY 16 AT FUK WITHOUT HAVING THE ACFT POSITIVELY IDENTED ON HIS RADAR. THE ACR BROKE OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND REALIZED THEY WERE TOO LOW AND HEADED FOR HIGHER TERRAIN, SO THEY MADE A CLBING TURN OVER THE BAY AND WERE SUBSEQUENTLY REIDENTED AND VECTORED FOR A NORMAL ILS APCH.
Narrative: DURING ARR WE CHANGED FROM ENRTE TO APCH CTL FREQ. APCH CTL GAVE US A TURN TO THE SW (ABOUT 240 DEGS) AND DSCNT TO ABOUT 7000 FT FOR AN ILS APCH TO RWY 16 AT FUK. HE SUBSEQUENTLY GAVE A TURN TO 180 DEGS AND DSCNT TO 1800 FT AND CLRED US FOR THE ILS TO RWY 16. WE WERE IMC AT THE TIME AND ASSUMED APCH HAD POSITIVELY IDENTED US ON RADAR. ABOUT THIS TIME APCH SAID HE WAS NOT RECEIVING OUR ALT READOUT AND REQUESTED OUR ALT. WE REPLIED, AND APCH TOLD US TO STOP SQUAWK MODE C (ALT). APCH THEN ASKED IF WE WERE RECEIVING THE ILS AND WE SAID NO, NOT RECEIVING IT. UPON DSNDING THROUGH ABOUT 3000 FT, WE PICKED UP THE SHORELINE AND HIGHER TERRAIN INLAND. REALIZING WE SHOULD NOT BE THIS CLOSE TO LAND HAVING NOT YET INTERCEPTED THE LOC, WE INITIATED A R CLBING TURN BACK OUT OVER THE BAY. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, THE CTLR ASKED US TO IDENT, AND AFTER RECEIVING OUR REPLY, DIRECTED A TURN TO 360 DEGS AND CLB TO 6000 FT. THIS TIME UNDER CORRECT RADAR INDENT WE COMPLETED A NORMAL ILS AND LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.