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Attributes | |
ACN | 367158 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : teb |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Sabreliner 65 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 367158 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It was a CAT and dog fight all the way to teb, she was not talking to anyone. Closer to teb I was handed off to teb tower and advise the sabreliner was talking to teb tower. On check-in they advise me I was to follow sabreliner. I told the tower I was 1-2 mi in front of sabreliner. Tower said I was #1 for teb. Woman pilot (no names -- can't remember tail number) said she 'was doing the legal speed limit.' I was 30 KTS (by controller) faster than sabreliner indicating 240 KTS. She was at 210 KTS. Under far 91.117 as long as I am outside airport area or not on a VFR corridor I was ok for 250 KTS down to 10000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA31 IS FLOWN AT 240 KTS BENEATH CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: IT WAS A CAT AND DOG FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO TEB, SHE WAS NOT TALKING TO ANYONE. CLOSER TO TEB I WAS HANDED OFF TO TEB TWR AND ADVISE THE SABRELINER WAS TALKING TO TEB TWR. ON CHK-IN THEY ADVISE ME I WAS TO FOLLOW SABRELINER. I TOLD THE TWR I WAS 1-2 MI IN FRONT OF SABRELINER. TWR SAID I WAS #1 FOR TEB. WOMAN PLT (NO NAMES -- CAN'T REMEMBER TAIL NUMBER) SAID SHE 'WAS DOING THE LEGAL SPD LIMIT.' I WAS 30 KTS (BY CTLR) FASTER THAN SABRELINER INDICATING 240 KTS. SHE WAS AT 210 KTS. UNDER FAR 91.117 AS LONG AS I AM OUTSIDE ARPT AREA OR NOT ON A VFR CORRIDOR I WAS OK FOR 250 KTS DOWN TO 10000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.