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B767 aircraft on approach. Approach controller had traffic so close to reporter that he received RA from TCASII.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 368500 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 368500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Lax tower instructed commuter to join up on our aircraft for landing on runway 25R. We were landing on runway 25L. He was so close behind us that on the TCASII screen he was touching the symbol. We finally got a TCASII TA followed by an RA that gave us instructions to descend at a rate of 1500 FPM. We knew he was there and with us being at such a low altitude anyway, we continued the approach and landing. I told the tower it was unsatisfactory to have him follow us that closely. Tower controller didn't seem the least bit concerned. He had already set up another air carrier flight ahead of us for a go around by having the planes too close together.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 ACFT ON APCH. APCH CTLR HAD TFC SO CLOSE TO RPTR THAT HE RECEIVED RA FROM TCASII.
Narrative: LAX TWR INSTRUCTED COMMUTER TO JOIN UP ON OUR ACFT FOR LNDG ON RWY 25R. WE WERE LNDG ON RWY 25L. HE WAS SO CLOSE BEHIND US THAT ON THE TCASII SCREEN HE WAS TOUCHING THE SYMBOL. WE FINALLY GOT A TCASII TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA THAT GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS TO DSND AT A RATE OF 1500 FPM. WE KNEW HE WAS THERE AND WITH US BEING AT SUCH A LOW ALT ANYWAY, WE CONTINUED THE APCH AND LNDG. I TOLD THE TWR IT WAS UNSATISFACTORY TO HAVE HIM FOLLOW US THAT CLOSELY. TWR CTLR DIDN'T SEEM THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED. HE HAD ALREADY SET UP ANOTHER ACR FLT AHEAD OF US FOR A GAR BY HAVING THE PLANES TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.