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An medium large transport misses a handoff to the next sector of ZLA and fails to receive a descent clearance until closer into lax. ZLA contact made later, but, descent was non eventful.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 368960 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 368960 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 208 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 1700 |
| ASRS Report | 369035 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Cruising at FL350 the handoff to ZLA was never received. Because of WX considerations it was a while before we caught the missed handoff. After several unsuccessful tries on various frequencys, contact was established and an uneventful descent and landing occurred. No conflict was mentioned by ATC. There is no real defined problem area here, it's just that when there is WX, extra attention must be given to all aspects of flight by pilots and controllers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MLG MISSES A HDOF TO THE NEXT SECTOR OF ZLA AND FAILS TO RECEIVE A DSCNT CLRNC UNTIL CLOSER INTO LAX. ZLA CONTACT MADE LATER, BUT, DSCNT WAS NON EVENTFUL.
Narrative: CRUISING AT FL350 THE HDOF TO ZLA WAS NEVER RECEIVED. BECAUSE OF WX CONSIDERATIONS IT WAS A WHILE BEFORE WE CAUGHT THE MISSED HDOF. AFTER SEVERAL UNSUCCESSFUL TRIES ON VARIOUS FREQS, CONTACT WAS ESTABLISHED AND AN UNEVENTFUL DSCNT AND LNDG OCCURRED. NO CONFLICT WAS MENTIONED BY ATC. THERE IS NO REAL DEFINED PROB AREA HERE, IT'S JUST THAT WHEN THERE IS WX, EXTRA ATTN MUST BE GIVEN TO ALL ASPECTS OF FLT BY PLTS AND CTLRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.