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A C182 IFR to maf from saf thinks that the ARTCC radar controller forgot to handoff his aircraft to the next ARTCC. Radio contact was weak and the controller questioned the aircraft clearance. Reporter thinks controller did not realize he was IFR. Handoff was made to ZFW and rest of the flight was normal.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 369648 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cme |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : pwk |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zab |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 369648 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Mission was filed IFR saf to maf. Clearance received from saf tower was saf V83 cnx V68 aneel direct gomit maf. ZAB acknowledged us after takeoff from santa flight engineer. We passed through another center sector and roswell approach, both of which usually result in a handoff without radio contact from center. We were squawking an IFR code of XXXX and the transponder showed frequent interrogation at a rate normal for this route. At XA00 hours I asked ZAB for a radio check and was told 'loud and clear.' at XA10 I asked if the handoff to ZFW was planned since ZAB was becoming weak on the assigned frequency. The controller was obviously confused and was not tracking me as IFR traffic. He asked for readback of my clearance and then handed me off to ftw. Ftw assigned a new IFR squawk and a new clearance. Flight completed without further incident. At no time were we below abq radar coverage and we could hear center radio traffic with other aircraft at all times so I don't understand how center could lose us. Had this been IMC rather than training in VFR flight conditions, the consequences could have been serious.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C182 IFR TO MAF FROM SAF THINKS THAT THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR FORGOT TO HDOF HIS ACFT TO THE NEXT ARTCC. RADIO CONTACT WAS WEAK AND THE CTLR QUESTIONED THE ACFT CLRNC. RPTR THINKS CTLR DID NOT REALIZE HE WAS IFR. HDOF WAS MADE TO ZFW AND REST OF THE FLT WAS NORMAL.
Narrative: MISSION WAS FILED IFR SAF TO MAF. CLRNC RECEIVED FROM SAF TWR WAS SAF V83 CNX V68 ANEEL DIRECT GOMIT MAF. ZAB ACKNOWLEDGED US AFTER TKOF FROM SANTA FE. WE PASSED THROUGH ANOTHER CTR SECTOR AND ROSWELL APCH, BOTH OF WHICH USUALLY RESULT IN A HDOF WITHOUT RADIO CONTACT FROM CTR. WE WERE SQUAWKING AN IFR CODE OF XXXX AND THE XPONDER SHOWED FREQUENT INTERROGATION AT A RATE NORMAL FOR THIS RTE. AT XA00 HRS I ASKED ZAB FOR A RADIO CHK AND WAS TOLD 'LOUD AND CLR.' AT XA10 I ASKED IF THE HDOF TO ZFW WAS PLANNED SINCE ZAB WAS BECOMING WEAK ON THE ASSIGNED FREQ. THE CTLR WAS OBVIOUSLY CONFUSED AND WAS NOT TRACKING ME AS IFR TFC. HE ASKED FOR READBACK OF MY CLRNC AND THEN HANDED ME OFF TO FTW. FTW ASSIGNED A NEW IFR SQUAWK AND A NEW CLRNC. FLT COMPLETED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. AT NO TIME WERE WE BELOW ABQ RADAR COVERAGE AND WE COULD HEAR CTR RADIO TFC WITH OTHER ACFT AT ALL TIMES SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CTR COULD LOSE US. HAD THIS BEEN IMC RATHER THAN TRAINING IN VFR FLT CONDITIONS, THE CONSEQUENCES COULD HAVE BEEN SERIOUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.