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Attributes | |
ACN | 370515 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ecg |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ecg tower : bos |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 370515 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While teaching lndgs (staying in pattern) I was trying to teach an important element of lndgs when radio chatter between tower and another aircraft kept interring. So I turned down volume with the intent to turn it back up after a short moment had passed (long enough to say what I wanted to say, approximately 15-20 seconds). The instructor was concentrating too much on teaching instead of flying because the instructor (me) forgot to turn the volume back up. On downwind, I noticed an aircraft passing across our flight path, same altitude. I remember thinking what the heck is he doing. Then it dawned on me that my volume was turned down. I turned it up just in time to hear the controller telling me to make a full stop due to no radio. I wish I had remembered to look at the tower to see if he was using the light gun. After I admitted that the volume was turned down he cleared us for the option, then insisted we keep volume turned up. I hate being caught doing something that I know I shouldn't have done. Evaluating this, I determined that 1) my past experience at non twred airports has allowed me to develop bad teaching habits such as turning volume down, and 2) I may be doing too much teaching in airplane instead of on the ground. The aircraft I saw was apparently doing a missed approach after a practice approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GA INSTRUCTOR PLT TURNED DOWN HIS RADIO VOLUME CTL TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT THE LNDG PROCESS TO HIS STUDENT AND CONSEQUENTLY HE MISSED IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT ANOTHER ACFT FROM THE TWR. THE ATCT LCL CTLR THEN ASSUMED THAT HE WAS NOW NORDO. AFTER A CLOSE ENCOUNTER, THE INSTRUCTOR TURNED UP HIS VOLUME.
Narrative: WHILE TEACHING LNDGS (STAYING IN PATTERN) I WAS TRYING TO TEACH AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF LNDGS WHEN RADIO CHATTER BTWN TWR AND ANOTHER ACFT KEPT INTERRING. SO I TURNED DOWN VOLUME WITH THE INTENT TO TURN IT BACK UP AFTER A SHORT MOMENT HAD PASSED (LONG ENOUGH TO SAY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, APPROX 15-20 SECONDS). THE INSTRUCTOR WAS CONCENTRATING TOO MUCH ON TEACHING INSTEAD OF FLYING BECAUSE THE INSTRUCTOR (ME) FORGOT TO TURN THE VOLUME BACK UP. ON DOWNWIND, I NOTICED AN ACFT PASSING ACROSS OUR FLT PATH, SAME ALT. I REMEMBER THINKING WHAT THE HECK IS HE DOING. THEN IT DAWNED ON ME THAT MY VOLUME WAS TURNED DOWN. I TURNED IT UP JUST IN TIME TO HEAR THE CTLR TELLING ME TO MAKE A FULL STOP DUE TO NO RADIO. I WISH I HAD REMEMBERED TO LOOK AT THE TWR TO SEE IF HE WAS USING THE LIGHT GUN. AFTER I ADMITTED THAT THE VOLUME WAS TURNED DOWN HE CLRED US FOR THE OPTION, THEN INSISTED WE KEEP VOLUME TURNED UP. I HATE BEING CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING THAT I KNOW I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE. EVALUATING THIS, I DETERMINED THAT 1) MY PAST EXPERIENCE AT NON TWRED ARPTS HAS ALLOWED ME TO DEVELOP BAD TEACHING HABITS SUCH AS TURNING VOLUME DOWN, AND 2) I MAY BE DOING TOO MUCH TEACHING IN AIRPLANE INSTEAD OF ON THE GND. THE ACFT I SAW WAS APPARENTLY DOING A MISSED APCH AFTER A PRACTICE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.