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Attributes | |
ACN | 372268 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 372268 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Bay departure (135.1) leveled us off at 4000 ft for traffic. We were on a heading of 180 degrees and subsequently cleared porte. VFR traffic reported approximately 2 O'clock, 4500 ft. We had them in sight (southeast cessna) and I think they had called us in sight. We were converging and got a descend RA. Followed RA as per company procedure but cessna decided to descend also, creating a near miss situation. We still might have gotten a descend RA due to proximity of aircraft but it would not have been a near miss if the cessna hadn't descended because we were already lower than them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN MLG CLBING OUT ON A SID AND A SINGLE ENG CESSNA DSNDING. ATC PROVIDED TA TO ALERT FLC WHO SIGHTED THE OTHER ACFT. WHEN RPTR'S ACFT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION BY DSNDING, THE OTHER ACFT WAS ALSO OBSERVED DSNDING WITH THEM.
Narrative: BAY DEP (135.1) LEVELED US OFF AT 4000 FT FOR TFC. WE WERE ON A HDG OF 180 DEGS AND SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED PORTE. VFR TFC RPTED APPROX 2 O'CLOCK, 4500 FT. WE HAD THEM IN SIGHT (SE CESSNA) AND I THINK THEY HAD CALLED US IN SIGHT. WE WERE CONVERGING AND GOT A DSND RA. FOLLOWED RA AS PER COMPANY PROC BUT CESSNA DECIDED TO DSND ALSO, CREATING A NEAR MISS SIT. WE STILL MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A DSND RA DUE TO PROX OF ACFT BUT IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A NEAR MISS IF THE CESSNA HADN'T DSNDED BECAUSE WE WERE ALREADY LOWER THAN THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.