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Attributes | |
ACN | 374251 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : csg airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl tracon : atl tracon : csg tower : csg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 374251 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 206 flight time total : 11214 |
ASRS Report | 374005 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was PIC of the above flight. The first officer served as PF on that leg. We experienced considerable delay and WX vectoring on arrival. We were vectored to runway 26R. A medium WX cell was abeam the approach end of runway 26R. 2 preceding aircraft missed approach on runway 26R and ATC then vectored us to runway 27L. Outside anvil fix, ATC declared microburst activity on final with airspeed loss of 45 KTS. We requested a turn off of final and received a 180 degree hard climb to 4000 ft. About 20 mi south of the airport, we received a vector east and we requested current WX conditions at the airport. Approach said they still had thunderstorms and gusts to 55 KTS. Since an approach to atl was indefinitely off, and fuel was only about 8600 pounds, we started alternate planning. We called flight control and were told we would be 'put on the list.' I felt we were running out of time. I heard flight control give some mgm divert WX and instructions. In the FMS I entered mgm on the progress page which predicted 4000 pounds of fuel at mgm. Very close to emergency fuel. Judging from our position, all alternates were about equally as far away as mgm. I requested direct to mgm and declared minimum fuel. En route to mgm I sent a divert ACARS to flight control. We loaded the FMS route to mgm and received an insufficient fuel message. I was concerned if we had any additional delaying problems we could have a real problem. About this time, center suggested csg about 20 mi away. I had been to csg many times and knew the approachs, airports and runways. I accepted csg as the diversion airport. We got csg ATIS and made an uneventful approach and landing with about 5000 pounds of fuel remaining. The low fuel message appeared at runway turnoff at csg. After landing, the problems presented themselves: no usable jetways, no tugs, no airstairs, and fueling problems. On the ground we were unable to contact flight control on the radio or ACARS. I exited the aircraft on a cherry picker and called flight control by phone. We refueled the aircraft and I received all dispatch documents. We started engines and taxied for takeoff when the csc reported a passenger had fainted. 2 medical doctors and a nurse attended the passenger. We returned to the parking pad and the emt came out and boarded from the cherry picker. The doctors, nurse, passenger and passenger's friend concluded she could continue to atl. An ACARS message for re-dispatch was received. The flight to atl was uneventful. Emt met the aircraft. The passenger left on her own and met the emt's. The emt pronounced her ok. The passenger and her friend said they would be ok on their own. Supplemental information from acn 374005: the captain elected to divert to an adequate, but unauthorized airport (csg) for the B757. The approach and landing was uneventful but there was no passenger handling equipment for the B757. The problem was using 'no alternate' fuel loads in areas where summer thunderstorms are common.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B757 FLC FOUND THEMSELVES SHORT OF FUEL WHEN TSTMS CAUSED THEM TO DIVERT FROM ATL. THE NEAREST ALTERNATES WERE SOME DISTANCE AWAY SO THE CAPT DECIDED TO LAND AT A NEARBY ARPT THAT WAS ADEQUATE, BUT NOT AUTH IN THE OPS MANUAL. AFTER SOME DIFFICULTY GETTING SVC AND CARING FOR A PAX, THE FLT CONTINUED TO ATL.
Narrative: I WAS PIC OF THE ABOVE FLT. THE FO SERVED AS PF ON THAT LEG. WE EXPERIENCED CONSIDERABLE DELAY AND WX VECTORING ON ARR. WE WERE VECTORED TO RWY 26R. A MEDIUM WX CELL WAS ABEAM THE APCH END OF RWY 26R. 2 PRECEDING ACFT MISSED APCH ON RWY 26R AND ATC THEN VECTORED US TO RWY 27L. OUTSIDE ANVIL FIX, ATC DECLARED MICROBURST ACTIVITY ON FINAL WITH AIRSPD LOSS OF 45 KTS. WE REQUESTED A TURN OFF OF FINAL AND RECEIVED A 180 DEG HARD CLB TO 4000 FT. ABOUT 20 MI S OF THE ARPT, WE RECEIVED A VECTOR E AND WE REQUESTED CURRENT WX CONDITIONS AT THE ARPT. APCH SAID THEY STILL HAD TSTMS AND GUSTS TO 55 KTS. SINCE AN APCH TO ATL WAS INDEFINITELY OFF, AND FUEL WAS ONLY ABOUT 8600 LBS, WE STARTED ALTERNATE PLANNING. WE CALLED FLT CTL AND WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE 'PUT ON THE LIST.' I FELT WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I HEARD FLT CTL GIVE SOME MGM DIVERT WX AND INSTRUCTIONS. IN THE FMS I ENTERED MGM ON THE PROGRESS PAGE WHICH PREDICTED 4000 LBS OF FUEL AT MGM. VERY CLOSE TO EMER FUEL. JUDGING FROM OUR POS, ALL ALTERNATES WERE ABOUT EQUALLY AS FAR AWAY AS MGM. I REQUESTED DIRECT TO MGM AND DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL. ENRTE TO MGM I SENT A DIVERT ACARS TO FLT CTL. WE LOADED THE FMS RTE TO MGM AND RECEIVED AN INSUFFICIENT FUEL MESSAGE. I WAS CONCERNED IF WE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL DELAYING PROBS WE COULD HAVE A REAL PROB. ABOUT THIS TIME, CTR SUGGESTED CSG ABOUT 20 MI AWAY. I HAD BEEN TO CSG MANY TIMES AND KNEW THE APCHS, ARPTS AND RWYS. I ACCEPTED CSG AS THE DIVERSION ARPT. WE GOT CSG ATIS AND MADE AN UNEVENTFUL APCH AND LNDG WITH ABOUT 5000 LBS OF FUEL REMAINING. THE LOW FUEL MESSAGE APPEARED AT RWY TURNOFF AT CSG. AFTER LNDG, THE PROBS PRESENTED THEMSELVES: NO USABLE JETWAYS, NO TUGS, NO AIRSTAIRS, AND FUELING PROBS. ON THE GND WE WERE UNABLE TO CONTACT FLT CTL ON THE RADIO OR ACARS. I EXITED THE ACFT ON A CHERRY PICKER AND CALLED FLT CTL BY PHONE. WE REFUELED THE ACFT AND I RECEIVED ALL DISPATCH DOCUMENTS. WE STARTED ENGS AND TAXIED FOR TKOF WHEN THE CSC RPTED A PAX HAD FAINTED. 2 MEDICAL DOCTORS AND A NURSE ATTENDED THE PAX. WE RETURNED TO THE PARKING PAD AND THE EMT CAME OUT AND BOARDED FROM THE CHERRY PICKER. THE DOCTORS, NURSE, PAX AND PAX'S FRIEND CONCLUDED SHE COULD CONTINUE TO ATL. AN ACARS MESSAGE FOR RE-DISPATCH WAS RECEIVED. THE FLT TO ATL WAS UNEVENTFUL. EMT MET THE ACFT. THE PAX LEFT ON HER OWN AND MET THE EMT'S. THE EMT PRONOUNCED HER OK. THE PAX AND HER FRIEND SAID THEY WOULD BE OK ON THEIR OWN. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 374005: THE CAPT ELECTED TO DIVERT TO AN ADEQUATE, BUT UNAUTH ARPT (CSG) FOR THE B757. THE APCH AND LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL BUT THERE WAS NO PAX HANDLING EQUIP FOR THE B757. THE PROB WAS USING 'NO ALTERNATE' FUEL LOADS IN AREAS WHERE SUMMER TSTMS ARE COMMON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.