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B737-200 aircraft after takeoff, following departure controller headings and altitudes, had TCASII conflict with an arriving aircraft. Reports from both flcs included.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374337 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cae |
| State Reference | SC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5380 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cae |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 167 flight time total : 12821 flight time type : 1605 |
| ASRS Report | 374337 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 245 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 374589 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 10000 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Tower cleared us for takeoff on runway 23 with a right turn to 330 degrees. At 400 ft I began a right turn to 330 degrees. My first officer contacted departure and controller said climb to 10000 ft and maintain runway heading. The first officer said climb to 10000 ft and our heading is 330 degrees assigned. Departure control then said maintain 4000 ft. The controller was talking fast and I was having difficulty understanding her. I had to ask the first officer to confirm the controller's xmissions and I had to turn my volume control up to try to understand the xmissions. The controller next gave us a heading change to 290 degrees. The controller gave us a climb to 5000 ft. As we climbed, my first officer said the controller is turning us into the only traffic in the area. I asked the first officer to confirm our heading and altitude. The controller was talking nonstop to a small airplane. The first officer finally transmitted we were 5000 ft heading 290 degrees. The controller never responded. The traffic kept getting closer and the TCASII gave us a climb and I initiated a climb. The other aircraft descended. Our TCASII showed 2 mi horizontal separation and 600 ft vertical separation. The first officer told the controller that we had climbed to avoid traffic. The controller cleared us to 10000 ft, turn right to 360 degrees, and join the jetway on course. This controller created confusion on departure by talking too fast, and was extremely difficult to understand. Supplemental information from acn 374297: our flight from atl-cae was being vectored by cae approach control for a landing on runway 5 (this 'expect' runway 5 instruction, issued by approach control, was contrary to ATIS information advising the landing runway to be runway 23). We were at 5000 ft, heading 050 degrees, speed 210 KTS. I noticed an aircraft (via the TCASII) approaching our intended flight path from right to left (its heading, 290 degrees I think). In addition, the aircraft was climbing and approaching near to our altitude. I determined that we needed to change course and/or altitude to avoid possible conflict. I instructed the first officer to turn right and descend. Both aircraft advised approach control of RA's and subsequent altdevs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-200 ACFT AFTER TKOF, FOLLOWING DEP CTLR HDGS AND ALTS, HAD TCASII CONFLICT WITH AN ARRIVING ACFT. RPTS FROM BOTH FLCS INCLUDED.
Narrative: TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF ON RWY 23 WITH A R TURN TO 330 DEGS. AT 400 FT I BEGAN A R TURN TO 330 DEGS. MY FO CONTACTED DEP AND CTLR SAID CLB TO 10000 FT AND MAINTAIN RWY HDG. THE FO SAID CLB TO 10000 FT AND OUR HDG IS 330 DEGS ASSIGNED. DEP CTL THEN SAID MAINTAIN 4000 FT. THE CTLR WAS TALKING FAST AND I WAS HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING HER. I HAD TO ASK THE FO TO CONFIRM THE CTLR'S XMISSIONS AND I HAD TO TURN MY VOLUME CTL UP TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE XMISSIONS. THE CTLR NEXT GAVE US A HDG CHANGE TO 290 DEGS. THE CTLR GAVE US A CLB TO 5000 FT. AS WE CLBED, MY FO SAID THE CTLR IS TURNING US INTO THE ONLY TFC IN THE AREA. I ASKED THE FO TO CONFIRM OUR HDG AND ALT. THE CTLR WAS TALKING NONSTOP TO A SMALL AIRPLANE. THE FO FINALLY XMITTED WE WERE 5000 FT HDG 290 DEGS. THE CTLR NEVER RESPONDED. THE TFC KEPT GETTING CLOSER AND THE TCASII GAVE US A CLB AND I INITIATED A CLB. THE OTHER ACFT DSNDED. OUR TCASII SHOWED 2 MI HORIZ SEPARATION AND 600 FT VERT SEPARATION. THE FO TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE HAD CLBED TO AVOID TFC. THE CTLR CLRED US TO 10000 FT, TURN R TO 360 DEGS, AND JOIN THE JETWAY ON COURSE. THIS CTLR CREATED CONFUSION ON DEP BY TALKING TOO FAST, AND WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 374297: OUR FLT FROM ATL-CAE WAS BEING VECTORED BY CAE APCH CTL FOR A LNDG ON RWY 5 (THIS 'EXPECT' RWY 5 INSTRUCTION, ISSUED BY APCH CTL, WAS CONTRARY TO ATIS INFO ADVISING THE LNDG RWY TO BE RWY 23). WE WERE AT 5000 FT, HDG 050 DEGS, SPD 210 KTS. I NOTICED AN ACFT (VIA THE TCASII) APCHING OUR INTENDED FLT PATH FROM R TO L (ITS HDG, 290 DEGS I THINK). IN ADDITION, THE ACFT WAS CLBING AND APCHING NEAR TO OUR ALT. I DETERMINED THAT WE NEEDED TO CHANGE COURSE AND/OR ALT TO AVOID POSSIBLE CONFLICT. I INSTRUCTED THE FO TO TURN R AND DSND. BOTH ACFT ADVISED APCH CTL OF RA'S AND SUBSEQUENT ALTDEVS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.