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Military pilot of an F16 spilled out of the O'neill MOA when he electronically locked on to another aircraft that was outside the MOA IFR. He recognized his mistake and broke off the intercept approximately 1 pt 5 mi away from the other unknown aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374411 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bub |
| State Reference | NE |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighting Falcon F16 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : military pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 374411 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 900 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was leading a flight of F16's in an MOA, when during the fighting I painted and locked another aircraft I received in the airspace. I knocked the fight off and remained locked in an effort to clear the airspace. As I got to 5 NM from the aircraft my radar broke lock, and I realized that the aircraft was in fact 3 NM outside the airspace. My mistake was making the decision too late in breaking off the intercept. By the time I turned around I was 900 ft higher and 1 1/2 - 2 NM away. He was IFR traffic and I violated his 3 NM bubble. I question the wisdom of using standard IFR separation around MOA's. 3 NM does not seem to be enough for the speeds we travel within these MOA's. In my effort to provide a safe airspace in which to train in that day, I flew outside the airspace when distraction by the 'close' IFR traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MIL PLT OF AN F16 SPILLED OUT OF THE O'NEILL MOA WHEN HE ELECTRONICALLY LOCKED ON TO ANOTHER ACFT THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE MOA IFR. HE RECOGNIZED HIS MISTAKE AND BROKE OFF THE INTERCEPT APPROX 1 PT 5 MI AWAY FROM THE OTHER UNKNOWN ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS LEADING A FLT OF F16'S IN AN MOA, WHEN DURING THE FIGHTING I PAINTED AND LOCKED ANOTHER ACFT I RECEIVED IN THE AIRSPACE. I KNOCKED THE FIGHT OFF AND REMAINED LOCKED IN AN EFFORT TO CLR THE AIRSPACE. AS I GOT TO 5 NM FROM THE ACFT MY RADAR BROKE LOCK, AND I REALIZED THAT THE ACFT WAS IN FACT 3 NM OUTSIDE THE AIRSPACE. MY MISTAKE WAS MAKING THE DECISION TOO LATE IN BREAKING OFF THE INTERCEPT. BY THE TIME I TURNED AROUND I WAS 900 FT HIGHER AND 1 1/2 - 2 NM AWAY. HE WAS IFR TFC AND I VIOLATED HIS 3 NM BUBBLE. I QUESTION THE WISDOM OF USING STANDARD IFR SEPARATION AROUND MOA'S. 3 NM DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ENOUGH FOR THE SPDS WE TRAVEL WITHIN THESE MOA'S. IN MY EFFORT TO PROVIDE A SAFE AIRSPACE IN WHICH TO TRAIN IN THAT DAY, I FLEW OUTSIDE THE AIRSPACE WHEN DISTR BY THE 'CLOSE' IFR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.