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Captain of an SF340 says that the tower was confused on call signs and had to ask the reporter and a previous air carrier B727 what their call signs were. Once in position and hold the tower again asked the reporter for his call sign and then cleared him for takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374440 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 374440 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were #3 for takeoff runway 29R, an air carrier B727 was ahead of us in line. Tower was confused as to the B727 flight number. When the air carrier B727 was cleared position and hold, they (tower) also asked our flight number (msp-atw) #2 position in hold behind the B727, regional jet on ? Mi final be ready once in position and hold -- tower seemed confused again and asked who was in position and hold. We replied, they said cleared for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN SF340 SAYS THAT THE TWR WAS CONFUSED ON CALL SIGNS AND HAD TO ASK THE RPTR AND A PREVIOUS ACR B727 WHAT THEIR CALL SIGNS WERE. ONCE IN POS AND HOLD THE TWR AGAIN ASKED THE RPTR FOR HIS CALL SIGN AND THEN CLRED HIM FOR TKOF.
Narrative: WE WERE #3 FOR TKOF RWY 29R, AN ACR B727 WAS AHEAD OF US IN LINE. TWR WAS CONFUSED AS TO THE B727 FLT NUMBER. WHEN THE ACR B727 WAS CLRED POS AND HOLD, THEY (TWR) ALSO ASKED OUR FLT NUMBER (MSP-ATW) #2 POS IN HOLD BEHIND THE B727, REGIONAL JET ON ? MI FINAL BE READY ONCE IN POS AND HOLD -- TWR SEEMED CONFUSED AGAIN AND ASKED WHO WAS IN POS AND HOLD. WE REPLIED, THEY SAID CLRED FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.