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Attributes | |
ACN | 374460 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dab |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 118 flight time total : 570 flight time type : 340 |
ASRS Report | 374460 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
After completing 3 full stop taxi back traffic patterns on runway 7R, I requested dab tower a ramp where I could get off and send my student on his second solo flight. Tower instructed us to taxi from intersection west off runway 7R to taxiway south eastbound to a vacant ramp north side of taxiway south. On taxiway south I stopped and tower advised to turn left onto ramp area. As I was taxiing onto the ramp entrance, I was briefing my student on how to get back to the runway and where to pick me up on his return. At this time I also noticed a red sign board on the left side of ramp entrance, which I was trying to read. I was on the taxiway slightly to the right of centerline. As I was visually clearing the right side, I noticed we were too close to the corner post of boundary fence, but could not stop in time to prevent contact. The right wing was damaged about 12 inches from the tip. Leading edge was pushed in about 2 inches. I immediately notified tower and they sent an airport person to inspect damage. He helped to push it back and then onto ramp. I contacted ground for clearance to taxi which I received and was advised to call tower when I got back to base. I called supervisor and he asked about the amount of damage and told me I was in a non movement area. Below is a sketch of incident area. My conclusion is that my visual scan was not appropriate, but since I was on the taxiway about maybe 12 inches from centerline, the fence post should have been no factor. I believe that post is a hazard as it is too close to the ramp entrance. An instructor colleague's student also had a near hit to that particular post (his comments). I had a solo student also entering the ramp area, nearly striking the same pole. I feel that the fence is too close to the entrance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C152 WAS TAXIING INTO AREA SO INSTRUCTOR COULD OBSERVE STUDENT PLT ON HIS SECOND SOLO FLT. IN TURNING INTO THE RAMP AREA THE R WINGTIP STRUCK A BOUNDARY POST RESULTING IN DAMAGE 12 INCHES FROM THE TIP. TWR SENT MAINT TO INSPECT THE DAMAGE AND THE ACFT WAS TAXIED TO THE RAMP. SUPVR ADVISED ACFT WAS IN A NON MOVEMENT AREA.
Narrative: AFTER COMPLETING 3 FULL STOP TAXI BACK TFC PATTERNS ON RWY 7R, I REQUESTED DAB TWR A RAMP WHERE I COULD GET OFF AND SEND MY STUDENT ON HIS SECOND SOLO FLT. TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI FROM INTXN W OFF RWY 7R TO TXWY S EBOUND TO A VACANT RAMP N SIDE OF TXWY S. ON TXWY S I STOPPED AND TWR ADVISED TO TURN L ONTO RAMP AREA. AS I WAS TAXIING ONTO THE RAMP ENTRANCE, I WAS BRIEFING MY STUDENT ON HOW TO GET BACK TO THE RWY AND WHERE TO PICK ME UP ON HIS RETURN. AT THIS TIME I ALSO NOTICED A RED SIGN BOARD ON THE L SIDE OF RAMP ENTRANCE, WHICH I WAS TRYING TO READ. I WAS ON THE TXWY SLIGHTLY TO THE R OF CTRLINE. AS I WAS VISUALLY CLRING THE R SIDE, I NOTICED WE WERE TOO CLOSE TO THE CORNER POST OF BOUNDARY FENCE, BUT COULD NOT STOP IN TIME TO PREVENT CONTACT. THE R WING WAS DAMAGED ABOUT 12 INCHES FROM THE TIP. LEADING EDGE WAS PUSHED IN ABOUT 2 INCHES. I IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED TWR AND THEY SENT AN ARPT PERSON TO INSPECT DAMAGE. HE HELPED TO PUSH IT BACK AND THEN ONTO RAMP. I CONTACTED GND FOR CLRNC TO TAXI WHICH I RECEIVED AND WAS ADVISED TO CALL TWR WHEN I GOT BACK TO BASE. I CALLED SUPVR AND HE ASKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE AND TOLD ME I WAS IN A NON MOVEMENT AREA. BELOW IS A SKETCH OF INCIDENT AREA. MY CONCLUSION IS THAT MY VISUAL SCAN WAS NOT APPROPRIATE, BUT SINCE I WAS ON THE TXWY ABOUT MAYBE 12 INCHES FROM CTRLINE, THE FENCE POST SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO FACTOR. I BELIEVE THAT POST IS A HAZARD AS IT IS TOO CLOSE TO THE RAMP ENTRANCE. AN INSTRUCTOR COLLEAGUE'S STUDENT ALSO HAD A NEAR HIT TO THAT PARTICULAR POST (HIS COMMENTS). I HAD A SOLO STUDENT ALSO ENTERING THE RAMP AREA, NEARLY STRIKING THE SAME POLE. I FEEL THAT THE FENCE IS TOO CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.