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An air carrier B737 flight crew overshot their turn to final approach on runway 24R at lax when the first officer, while attempting to confirm that he had the traffic in sight, lost the runway that he was assigned and instead focused on a runway to the south. The captain realized the error as they overshot and corrected their course. No apparent conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374850 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : oss airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 2230 flight time type : 130 |
| ASRS Report | 374850 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time total : 14000 |
| ASRS Report | 374689 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the evening of jul/tue/97 I was the PF from sfo to lax. While on downwind for an expected visual approach to runway 24R at lax at an altitude of approximately 5000 ft MSL descending to 2500 ft MSL we were instructed to turn base and advised of B767 traffic for the 'south complex.' we reported the traffic in sight and the captain and myself concurred we would be parallel to and behind that aircraft. Subsequently, we were advised of additional traffic (I believe a brasilia or saab) to follow for the visual. We reported that traffic in sight as well and were cleared for the visual approach to runway 24R. The captain asked me to confirm I had the runway in sight and while attempting to verify my runway I lost the commuter traffic. I quickly reacquired the commuter, but when I looked back to the runway I focused on runway 25R. I believe, in hindsight the shallow angle dogleg I was using to prevent a possible overshoot contributed to my illusion. As I crossed to the south side of runway 24L the captain alerted me of the situation and we immediately corrected back to the centerline of our assigned runway. At no time did we receive a TCASII warning and we had the B767 in sight throughout. Total time south of runway 24R centerline was approximately 12-15 seconds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B737 FLC OVERSHOT THEIR TURN TO FINAL APCH ON RWY 24R AT LAX WHEN THE FO, WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CONFIRM THAT HE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT, LOST THE RWY THAT HE WAS ASSIGNED AND INSTEAD FOCUSED ON A RWY TO THE S. THE CAPT REALIZED THE ERROR AS THEY OVERSHOT AND CORRECTED THEIR COURSE. NO APPARENT CONFLICT.
Narrative: ON THE EVENING OF JUL/TUE/97 I WAS THE PF FROM SFO TO LAX. WHILE ON DOWNWIND FOR AN EXPECTED VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R AT LAX AT AN ALT OF APPROX 5000 FT MSL DSNDING TO 2500 FT MSL WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TURN BASE AND ADVISED OF B767 TFC FOR THE 'S COMPLEX.' WE RPTED THE TFC IN SIGHT AND THE CAPT AND MYSELF CONCURRED WE WOULD BE PARALLEL TO AND BEHIND THAT ACFT. SUBSEQUENTLY, WE WERE ADVISED OF ADDITIONAL TFC (I BELIEVE A BRASILIA OR SAAB) TO FOLLOW FOR THE VISUAL. WE RPTED THAT TFC IN SIGHT AS WELL AND WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R. THE CAPT ASKED ME TO CONFIRM I HAD THE RWY IN SIGHT AND WHILE ATTEMPTING TO VERIFY MY RWY I LOST THE COMMUTER TFC. I QUICKLY REACQUIRED THE COMMUTER, BUT WHEN I LOOKED BACK TO THE RWY I FOCUSED ON RWY 25R. I BELIEVE, IN HINDSIGHT THE SHALLOW ANGLE DOGLEG I WAS USING TO PREVENT A POSSIBLE OVERSHOOT CONTRIBUTED TO MY ILLUSION. AS I CROSSED TO THE S SIDE OF RWY 24L THE CAPT ALERTED ME OF THE SIT AND WE IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BACK TO THE CTRLINE OF OUR ASSIGNED RWY. AT NO TIME DID WE RECEIVE A TCASII WARNING AND WE HAD THE B767 IN SIGHT THROUGHOUT. TOTAL TIME S OF RWY 24R CTRLINE WAS APPROX 12-15 SECONDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.