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Attributes | |
ACN | 375098 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 375098 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 215 |
ASRS Report | 374982 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On takeoff roll captain could not get autothrottles engaged (runway 24L lax). Decision to go and solve problem in the air. Once airborne and gear up flap retraction on schedule, captain tried many different things to solve problem, ie: recycling FMC, direct VNAV/LNAV, and flight directors. I was flying the airplane. The captain and I thought it was a tmc problem (thrust mode control). I communicated to him I had a list of circuit breakers for that highlighted in my book. I then noticed that during his trying different things he left the flight directors off. I asked him to turn the flight directors on and engage VNAV/LNAV. As I watched him do this, I noticed the autothrottles switch was off. As the LNAV engaged and commenced a left turn I followed the flight director and pointed out the switch to the captain. He turned on the switch and solved our problem. At which time ATC called and asked why we were turning off. The SID (LAXX2) runway 24L calls for a 250 degree heading for vectors. By engaging LNAV the flight directors commanded us to fly the SID. Fortunately there were no other aircraft in the area. The captain missed part of his preflight flow, there was no checklist item to back it up. I allowed myself to be distraction from my duty of flying the airplane and get involved in the problem solving. Another key lesson here is to not let the technology run you as a pilot. The pilot has to run/manage the technology.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLC WAS DISTRACTED AFTER TKOF BY AUTOTHROTTLE PROB AND WHEN ENGAGING LNAV THE ACFT TURNED, NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEP PROC. DEP CTLR QUESTIONED THEIR TURN.
Narrative: ON TKOF ROLL CAPT COULD NOT GET AUTOTHROTTLES ENGAGED (RWY 24L LAX). DECISION TO GO AND SOLVE PROB IN THE AIR. ONCE AIRBORNE AND GEAR UP FLAP RETRACTION ON SCHEDULE, CAPT TRIED MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO SOLVE PROB, IE: RECYCLING FMC, DIRECT VNAV/LNAV, AND FLT DIRECTORS. I WAS FLYING THE AIRPLANE. THE CAPT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A TMC PROB (THRUST MODE CTL). I COMMUNICATED TO HIM I HAD A LIST OF CIRCUIT BREAKERS FOR THAT HIGHLIGHTED IN MY BOOK. I THEN NOTICED THAT DURING HIS TRYING DIFFERENT THINGS HE LEFT THE FLT DIRECTORS OFF. I ASKED HIM TO TURN THE FLT DIRECTORS ON AND ENGAGE VNAV/LNAV. AS I WATCHED HIM DO THIS, I NOTICED THE AUTOTHROTTLES SWITCH WAS OFF. AS THE LNAV ENGAGED AND COMMENCED A L TURN I FOLLOWED THE FLT DIRECTOR AND POINTED OUT THE SWITCH TO THE CAPT. HE TURNED ON THE SWITCH AND SOLVED OUR PROB. AT WHICH TIME ATC CALLED AND ASKED WHY WE WERE TURNING OFF. THE SID (LAXX2) RWY 24L CALLS FOR A 250 DEG HDG FOR VECTORS. BY ENGAGING LNAV THE FLT DIRECTORS COMMANDED US TO FLY THE SID. FORTUNATELY THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT IN THE AREA. THE CAPT MISSED PART OF HIS PREFLT FLOW, THERE WAS NO CHKLIST ITEM TO BACK IT UP. I ALLOWED MYSELF TO BE DISTR FROM MY DUTY OF FLYING THE AIRPLANE AND GET INVOLVED IN THE PROB SOLVING. ANOTHER KEY LESSON HERE IS TO NOT LET THE TECHNOLOGY RUN YOU AS A PLT. THE PLT HAS TO RUN/MANAGE THE TECHNOLOGY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.