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Attributes | |
ACN | 375954 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mia |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia tower : cle |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 204 flight time total : 1089 |
ASRS Report | 375954 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student found himself lost and confused in the 'heart' of miami's class B airspace. I reviewed his planning and went over the possible frequencys he needed for the known flight. I even spent at least 15 hours of ground instruction on airspace, the charts, and even lost procedures. The student panicked and forgot all frequencys and where he was. He finally phoned in at naples and that was when I learned of the violations. I spoke with the manager at miami approach shortly after our phone call with the student. He was flying a heading of 160 degrees at an altitude of 2300 ft (after leaving the west palm beach class C). He continued his flight south all the way to key largo, fl, where he finally made radio communications with ZMA. They gave him a heading which helped him navigation to naples. The rest of the trip went well except for a brief thunderstorm delay at naples. I did nothing different with my teaching than what I did with this student. The previous 1 month prior to this incident, I signed 3 student pilots off for their private pilot check ride with all passing on their first attempt. It's amazing how nervous students get flying into a class C. After all, we do all of our training out of sarasota's class C.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR RPT REGARDING STUDENT PLT WHO ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC ON SOLO XCOUNTRY FLT.
Narrative: MY STUDENT FOUND HIMSELF LOST AND CONFUSED IN THE 'HEART' OF MIAMI'S CLASS B AIRSPACE. I REVIEWED HIS PLANNING AND WENT OVER THE POSSIBLE FREQS HE NEEDED FOR THE KNOWN FLT. I EVEN SPENT AT LEAST 15 HRS OF GND INSTRUCTION ON AIRSPACE, THE CHARTS, AND EVEN LOST PROCS. THE STUDENT PANICKED AND FORGOT ALL FREQS AND WHERE HE WAS. HE FINALLY PHONED IN AT NAPLES AND THAT WAS WHEN I LEARNED OF THE VIOLATIONS. I SPOKE WITH THE MGR AT MIAMI APCH SHORTLY AFTER OUR PHONE CALL WITH THE STUDENT. HE WAS FLYING A HDG OF 160 DEGS AT AN ALT OF 2300 FT (AFTER LEAVING THE WEST PALM BEACH CLASS C). HE CONTINUED HIS FLT S ALL THE WAY TO KEY LARGO, FL, WHERE HE FINALLY MADE RADIO COMS WITH ZMA. THEY GAVE HIM A HEADING WHICH HELPED HIM NAV TO NAPLES. THE REST OF THE TRIP WENT WELL EXCEPT FOR A BRIEF TSTM DELAY AT NAPLES. I DID NOTHING DIFFERENT WITH MY TEACHING THAN WHAT I DID WITH THIS STUDENT. THE PREVIOUS 1 MONTH PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT, I SIGNED 3 STUDENT PLTS OFF FOR THEIR PVT PLT CHK RIDE WITH ALL PASSING ON THEIR FIRST ATTEMPT. IT'S AMAZING HOW NERVOUS STUDENTS GET FLYING INTO A CLASS C. AFTER ALL, WE DO ALL OF OUR TRAINING OUT OF SARASOTA'S CLASS C.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.