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Attributes | |
ACN | 376350 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bhm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bhm tower : gfk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 376350 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon arrival over vulcan VOR we were given a vector heading and descent to 3000 ft MSL for a visual approach to runway 23. Visibility was 6 mi in haze and further restr by a setting sun. On arrival over vulcan, I realized I was high for the approach and began configuring for final approach descent. As we were approaching roeby I asked the first officer if he had the field. He thought I said I had the field in sight. Neither of us had the field in sight at this time. When the controller asked if we could get down, the first officer said yes, we had the field in sight. I knew that we were high and needed some room to get down. At this point we flew through localizer course and the controller asked if we were doing a 360 degree turn. I told the first officer to relay we were making a left turn to get down and the controller then gave us vectors around to reintercept the localizer course. 3 factors contributed to this event: 1) high approach. 2) reduced visibility from the haze and low sun angle. 3) miscom in the cockpit. I should have intercepted the localizer course and continued the approach to a possible missed approach when I realized neither the first officer nor myself had the field visually.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC IN AN ACR MLG ARE GIVEN A GAR BY APCH CTLR AFTER CREW FAILS TO VISUALLY ACQUIRE THE ARPT DURING A VISUAL APCH. PIC COMMENTED ON BEING TOO HIGH TO COMPLETE THE APCH.
Narrative: UPON ARR OVER VULCAN VOR WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR HDG AND DSCNT TO 3000 FT MSL FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 23. VISIBILITY WAS 6 MI IN HAZE AND FURTHER RESTR BY A SETTING SUN. ON ARR OVER VULCAN, I REALIZED I WAS HIGH FOR THE APCH AND BEGAN CONFIGURING FOR FINAL APCH DSCNT. AS WE WERE APCHING ROEBY I ASKED THE FO IF HE HAD THE FIELD. HE THOUGHT I SAID I HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT. NEITHER OF US HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT AT THIS TIME. WHEN THE CTLR ASKED IF WE COULD GET DOWN, THE FO SAID YES, WE HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT. I KNEW THAT WE WERE HIGH AND NEEDED SOME ROOM TO GET DOWN. AT THIS POINT WE FLEW THROUGH LOC COURSE AND THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE DOING A 360 DEG TURN. I TOLD THE FO TO RELAY WE WERE MAKING A L TURN TO GET DOWN AND THE CTLR THEN GAVE US VECTORS AROUND TO REINTERCEPT THE LOC COURSE. 3 FACTORS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT: 1) HIGH APCH. 2) REDUCED VISIBILITY FROM THE HAZE AND LOW SUN ANGLE. 3) MISCOM IN THE COCKPIT. I SHOULD HAVE INTERCEPTED THE LOC COURSE AND CONTINUED THE APCH TO A POSSIBLE MISSED APCH WHEN I REALIZED NEITHER THE FO NOR MYSELF HAD THE FIELD VISUALLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.