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Attributes | |
ACN | 378154 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9600 msl bound upper : 10300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : n90 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 378154 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Cleared from 10000 ft to 9000 ft. At 9600 ft received a 'traffic' quickly followed by 'climb' RA. Leveled again at 10000 ft with clear of conflict, followed again by 'climb' RA, then clear of conflict at 10300 ft (approximately). Aircraft off SID (lost). If cargo aircraft required to have TCASII this aircraft would have known we were there and leveled off instead of continuing to climb into us. I would also have one less gray hair. This is a big safety issue and one the FAA must address as soon as possible to require all airplanes (cargo and military included) to have TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR A320 ON STAR DSNDING RECEIVED TCASII RA AND TOOK EVASIVE ACTION. RPTR SAYS THAT CARGO ACFT SHOULD HAVE TCASII AS THAT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE NMAC. CLBING TFC.
Narrative: CLRED FROM 10000 FT TO 9000 FT. AT 9600 FT RECEIVED A 'TFC' QUICKLY FOLLOWED BY 'CLB' RA. LEVELED AGAIN AT 10000 FT WITH CLR OF CONFLICT, FOLLOWED AGAIN BY 'CLB' RA, THEN CLR OF CONFLICT AT 10300 FT (APPROX). ACFT OFF SID (LOST). IF CARGO ACFT REQUIRED TO HAVE TCASII THIS ACFT WOULD HAVE KNOWN WE WERE THERE AND LEVELED OFF INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO CLB INTO US. I WOULD ALSO HAVE ONE LESS GRAY HAIR. THIS IS A BIG SAFETY ISSUE AND ONE THE FAA MUST ADDRESS ASAP TO REQUIRE ALL AIRPLANES (CARGO AND MIL INCLUDED) TO HAVE TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.