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The air carrier flight crew of an E120 departed from a runway intersection without having the takeoff data for the runway remaining from this intersection.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 378720 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : roa |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 378720 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
End of 4 long days of flying. The last leg going home. Tower had cleared us for takeoff runway 24. We took the runway for departure at the displaced landing threshold. Tower told us as we were in position that we could back taxi if we wanted for the full length. The distance from the landing threshold was several (200-300) ft. I thought we had the data from that intersection and told tower we were light enough and didn't need full length (with only 2 passenger and no baggage we were basically empty). After departure, I looked in the performance data and realized we did not have that intersection listed for takeoff. I will remember this event and will try and slow things down towards the end of a 14 hour duty day and take time to look carefully at all aspects prior to departure. While from a safety standpoint nothing was compromised, the importance of following correct procedures remains important.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE ACR FLC OF AN E120 DEPARTED FROM A RWY INTXN WITHOUT HAVING THE TKOF DATA FOR THE RWY REMAINING FROM THIS INTXN.
Narrative: END OF 4 LONG DAYS OF FLYING. THE LAST LEG GOING HOME. TWR HAD CLRED US FOR TKOF RWY 24. WE TOOK THE RWY FOR DEP AT THE DISPLACED LNDG THRESHOLD. TWR TOLD US AS WE WERE IN POS THAT WE COULD BACK TAXI IF WE WANTED FOR THE FULL LENGTH. THE DISTANCE FROM THE LNDG THRESHOLD WAS SEVERAL (200-300) FT. I THOUGHT WE HAD THE DATA FROM THAT INTXN AND TOLD TWR WE WERE LIGHT ENOUGH AND DIDN'T NEED FULL LENGTH (WITH ONLY 2 PAX AND NO BAGGAGE WE WERE BASICALLY EMPTY). AFTER DEP, I LOOKED IN THE PERFORMANCE DATA AND REALIZED WE DID NOT HAVE THAT INTXN LISTED FOR TKOF. I WILL REMEMBER THIS EVENT AND WILL TRY AND SLOW THINGS DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF A 14 HR DUTY DAY AND TAKE TIME TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT ALL ASPECTS PRIOR TO DEP. WHILE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT NOTHING WAS COMPROMISED, THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING CORRECT PROCS REMAINS IMPORTANT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.