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Attributes | |
ACN | 378810 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : nuw tracon : sea |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skywagon 185 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 378810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 378809 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Cruising at 4500 ft past olympia, wa, over broken overcast, visually overflew belfair, wa. Started climb to avoid buildups while flying a GPS heading toward friday harbor. Contacted whidbey approach about jefferson county international. Was told by whidbey that center said we had entered class B airspace. I don't believe I did that. Would be educational for me to review the radar tapes. Supplemental information from acn 378809: VFR flight plan from aurora state, or, at between 6200-6500 ft MSL direct olympia, direct friday harbor direct powell river, back course. After passing olympia we went to a solid undercast and broken overcast with buildups, requiring flight deviations. By the time we approached whidbey island airspace we were between layers with buildups. Whidbey island approach informed me that we had violated the seattle class B airspace. I assumed seattle had called them. Whidbey said that was a 'no-no.' our WX briefing indicated that nanaimo and powell river were VFR. We should have had seattle flight following and the class B airspace would not be in question at this time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C185 FLOAT PLANE WITH 2 PLTS ENTERS CLASS B OF SEATTLE DURING SOME DEVIATING AROUND WX. PLTS WERE USING GPS 'DIRECT' FROM OLYMPIA TO FRIDAY HARBOR TO POWELL RIVER. PF ADMITS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON SEA APCH CTL FREQ.
Narrative: CRUISING AT 4500 FT PAST OLYMPIA, WA, OVER BROKEN OVCST, VISUALLY OVERFLEW BELFAIR, WA. STARTED CLB TO AVOID BUILDUPS WHILE FLYING A GPS HDG TOWARD FRIDAY HARBOR. CONTACTED WHIDBEY APCH ABOUT JEFFERSON COUNTY INTL. WAS TOLD BY WHIDBEY THAT CTR SAID WE HAD ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE. I DON'T BELIEVE I DID THAT. WOULD BE EDUCATIONAL FOR ME TO REVIEW THE RADAR TAPES. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 378809: VFR FLT PLAN FROM AURORA STATE, OR, AT BTWN 6200-6500 FT MSL DIRECT OLYMPIA, DIRECT FRIDAY HARBOR DIRECT POWELL RIVER, BC. AFTER PASSING OLYMPIA WE WENT TO A SOLID UNDERCAST AND BROKEN OVCST WITH BUILDUPS, REQUIRING FLT DEVS. BY THE TIME WE APCHED WHIDBEY ISLAND AIRSPACE WE WERE BTWN LAYERS WITH BUILDUPS. WHIDBEY ISLAND APCH INFORMED ME THAT WE HAD VIOLATED THE SEATTLE CLASS B AIRSPACE. I ASSUMED SEATTLE HAD CALLED THEM. WHIDBEY SAID THAT WAS A 'NO-NO.' OUR WX BRIEFING INDICATED THAT NANAIMO AND POWELL RIVER WERE VFR. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SEATTLE FLT FOLLOWING AND THE CLASS B AIRSPACE WOULD NOT BE IN QUESTION AT THIS TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.