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Attributes | |
ACN | 379018 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mvy |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4300 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fmh |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 379018 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I departed mvy runway 24 at about KK20 on aug/ll/97. While climbing to 4500 ft, I turned to a heading of approximately 285 degrees and contacted cape approach on 124.7. I was told to stand by. After about 5 mins of waiting, I called again. The controller apologized for the delay and assigned me a transponder code. Shortly thereafter, he said that my transponder appeared inoperative and asked if it was showing a reply light. I said that it was. Next he said he was receiving my transponder but that it was alternating between the assigned code and 1200. He then asked if perhaps I saw traffic 400 ft above me. My front seat passenger and I both looked and saw nothing. We were now at approximately 4300 ft, climbing at about 105 KTS. A very brief second later a piper cherokee appeared from above descending through our altitude and banking away at our 8 O'clock position. I believe we may have passed within 200 ft of each other. The controller said that he now saw 2 aircraft, me and another squawking 1200. Afterward, in a brief conversation with the controller, he explained that if 2 aircraft were sufficiently close they would appear as one on radar and that this might explain the earlier problem with my transponder. I believe I may have been climbing directly below and slightly ahead of the cherokee, at approximately the same speed and heading, for most of the time while waiting for the controller to call me back. This delay allowed these 2 aircraft to get sufficiently close that it became impossible for the controller to tell us apart. Although it is always the responsibility of the pilot to maintain visual separation in VFR conditions, a more timely identify would have prevented this situation from developing to the point where an evasive maneuver became necessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA OVER MVY, MA, HAS A NEAR MISS WITH ANOTHER SMA AS THEIR FLT PATHS COINCIDE AND THE TRACON CANNOT RECEIVE 2 SEPARATE TARGETS. EVENTUALLY THE 2 ACFT SIGHT ONE ANOTHER AND TAKE EVASIVE ACTION.
Narrative: I DEPARTED MVY RWY 24 AT ABOUT KK20 ON AUG/LL/97. WHILE CLBING TO 4500 FT, I TURNED TO A HDG OF APPROX 285 DEGS AND CONTACTED CAPE APCH ON 124.7. I WAS TOLD TO STAND BY. AFTER ABOUT 5 MINS OF WAITING, I CALLED AGAIN. THE CTLR APOLOGIZED FOR THE DELAY AND ASSIGNED ME A XPONDER CODE. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, HE SAID THAT MY XPONDER APPEARED INOP AND ASKED IF IT WAS SHOWING A REPLY LIGHT. I SAID THAT IT WAS. NEXT HE SAID HE WAS RECEIVING MY XPONDER BUT THAT IT WAS ALTERNATING BTWN THE ASSIGNED CODE AND 1200. HE THEN ASKED IF PERHAPS I SAW TFC 400 FT ABOVE ME. MY FRONT SEAT PAX AND I BOTH LOOKED AND SAW NOTHING. WE WERE NOW AT APPROX 4300 FT, CLBING AT ABOUT 105 KTS. A VERY BRIEF SECOND LATER A PIPER CHEROKEE APPEARED FROM ABOVE DSNDING THROUGH OUR ALT AND BANKING AWAY AT OUR 8 O'CLOCK POS. I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE PASSED WITHIN 200 FT OF EACH OTHER. THE CTLR SAID THAT HE NOW SAW 2 ACFT, ME AND ANOTHER SQUAWKING 1200. AFTERWARD, IN A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH THE CTLR, HE EXPLAINED THAT IF 2 ACFT WERE SUFFICIENTLY CLOSE THEY WOULD APPEAR AS ONE ON RADAR AND THAT THIS MIGHT EXPLAIN THE EARLIER PROB WITH MY XPONDER. I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE BEEN CLBING DIRECTLY BELOW AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THE CHEROKEE, AT APPROX THE SAME SPD AND HDG, FOR MOST OF THE TIME WHILE WAITING FOR THE CTLR TO CALL ME BACK. THIS DELAY ALLOWED THESE 2 ACFT TO GET SUFFICIENTLY CLOSE THAT IT BECAME IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CTLR TO TELL US APART. ALTHOUGH IT IS ALWAYS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PLT TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION IN VFR CONDITIONS, A MORE TIMELY IDENT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS SIT FROM DEVELOPING TO THE POINT WHERE AN EVASIVE MANEUVER BECAME NECESSARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.