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Attributes | |
ACN | 380286 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Jetstar 1329 (C140) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 144 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 380286 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On departure from dca, runway 36. We encountered mild wake turbulence from departing B727. Required 70% of yoke deflection (roll) to maintain wings level. Opted to maintain runway heading for 30 seconds and fly upwind of vortices. New noise abatement requires immediate left turn. Unable to advise local control due to frequency congestion. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter is a captain and chief pilot for a cpr flight department and he was flying a lockheed jetstar when he hit the wake of a B727 just after liftoff. He said that he had just called 'gear up' when the aircraft started the first roll to the right. He told the first officer to leave the gear down for the moment. After they were over the river at dca they retracted the gear. He said that the roll was very rapid and got to 30 degrees to the right and then to the left to about 30 degrees also. He said that the roll was accompanied by a yaw to the opposite side of about 5 degrees. Also the climb rate reduced from 2000 FPM to 500 FPM. He could stop the roll by putting about 70 percent of his aileron's travel against the direction of roll. He described the motion as being like a strong dutch roll. The reporter alleged that the controller cleared him for takeoff as the B727 rotated, and the captain estimates that he was only 1 - 1 1/2 mi behind the B727 when he rotated. He said that he feels that the controllers and pilots of larger cpr aircraft have gotten a bit casual about wake separation on departure. Some of his pilots felt that their climb performance was so good that they could out-climb the larger air carrier's wake. He said that his briefing to his own pilots has changed their understanding and they now do not waive the separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR L329 FLC HIT THE WAKE OF A PRECEDING B727 JUST AFTER LIFTOFF FROM RWY 36 IN DCA. THE ACFT ROLLED UP TO 30 DEGS R THEN L WITH UP TO 5 DEGS OF YAW IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THE FLC CONTINUED THEIR DEP BY STAYING TO ONE SIDE OF THE B727'S COURSE UNTIL THEY GOT ABOVE IT.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM DCA, RWY 36. WE ENCOUNTERED MILD WAKE TURB FROM DEPARTING B727. REQUIRED 70% OF YOKE DEFLECTION (ROLL) TO MAINTAIN WINGS LEVEL. OPTED TO MAINTAIN RWY HDG FOR 30 SECONDS AND FLY UPWIND OF VORTICES. NEW NOISE ABATEMENT REQUIRES IMMEDIATE L TURN. UNABLE TO ADVISE LCL CTL DUE TO FREQ CONGESTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR IS A CAPT AND CHIEF PLT FOR A CPR FLT DEPT AND HE WAS FLYING A LOCKHEED JETSTAR WHEN HE HIT THE WAKE OF A B727 JUST AFTER LIFTOFF. HE SAID THAT HE HAD JUST CALLED 'GEAR UP' WHEN THE ACFT STARTED THE FIRST ROLL TO THE R. HE TOLD THE FO TO LEAVE THE GEAR DOWN FOR THE MOMENT. AFTER THEY WERE OVER THE RIVER AT DCA THEY RETRACTED THE GEAR. HE SAID THAT THE ROLL WAS VERY RAPID AND GOT TO 30 DEGS TO THE R AND THEN TO THE L TO ABOUT 30 DEGS ALSO. HE SAID THAT THE ROLL WAS ACCOMPANIED BY A YAW TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ABOUT 5 DEGS. ALSO THE CLB RATE REDUCED FROM 2000 FPM TO 500 FPM. HE COULD STOP THE ROLL BY PUTTING ABOUT 70 PERCENT OF HIS AILERON'S TRAVEL AGAINST THE DIRECTION OF ROLL. HE DESCRIBED THE MOTION AS BEING LIKE A STRONG DUTCH ROLL. THE RPTR ALLEGED THAT THE CTLR CLRED HIM FOR TKOF AS THE B727 ROTATED, AND THE CAPT ESTIMATES THAT HE WAS ONLY 1 - 1 1/2 MI BEHIND THE B727 WHEN HE ROTATED. HE SAID THAT HE FEELS THAT THE CTLRS AND PLTS OF LARGER CPR ACFT HAVE GOTTEN A BIT CASUAL ABOUT WAKE SEPARATION ON DEP. SOME OF HIS PLTS FELT THAT THEIR CLB PERFORMANCE WAS SO GOOD THAT THEY COULD OUT-CLB THE LARGER ACR'S WAKE. HE SAID THAT HIS BRIEFING TO HIS OWN PLTS HAS CHANGED THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND THEY NOW DO NOT WAIVE THE SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.