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Cabin attendant questioned the legality of scheduling recurrent training on the seventh day of duty without having 24 hours off duty. Company said that cabin attendant training is not included in company duty time for computing rest periods.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 380694 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight attendant : on duty |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| ASRS Report | 380694 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Scheduled for FAA mandated recurrent training on sep/xa/97. If recurrent training is counted as a part of or applies to the 24 in 7 rule then I worked 7 consecutive days without a 24 hour break. Originally, I was scheduled to work 4 days of reserve on sep/a,B,C,D/97, I then picked up an additional 2 day trip on sep/east,F/97 for a total of 6 days of work. Moments later recurrent training was assigned to me for a total of 7 days. Although I addressed this issue with our scheduling department, I was told recurrent training does not count towards a part of the 24 in 7 rule. I'm still uncertain about this far.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CABIN ATTENDANT QUESTIONED THE LEGALITY OF SCHEDULING RECURRENT TRAINING ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF DUTY WITHOUT HAVING 24 HRS OFF DUTY. COMPANY SAID THAT CABIN ATTENDANT TRAINING IS NOT INCLUDED IN COMPANY DUTY TIME FOR COMPUTING REST PERIODS.
Narrative: SCHEDULED FOR FAA MANDATED RECURRENT TRAINING ON SEP/XA/97. IF RECURRENT TRAINING IS COUNTED AS A PART OF OR APPLIES TO THE 24 IN 7 RULE THEN I WORKED 7 CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHOUT A 24 HR BREAK. ORIGINALLY, I WAS SCHEDULED TO WORK 4 DAYS OF RESERVE ON SEP/A,B,C,D/97, I THEN PICKED UP AN ADDITIONAL 2 DAY TRIP ON SEP/E,F/97 FOR A TOTAL OF 6 DAYS OF WORK. MOMENTS LATER RECURRENT TRAINING WAS ASSIGNED TO ME FOR A TOTAL OF 7 DAYS. ALTHOUGH I ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE WITH OUR SCHEDULING DEPT, I WAS TOLD RECURRENT TRAINING DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS A PART OF THE 24 IN 7 RULE. I'M STILL UNCERTAIN ABOUT THIS FAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.