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Attributes | |
ACN | 381070 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rjtg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 381070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During taxi out, received message over ACARS that overweight/stop. Called dispatch/loads. Initial was we were 5000 pounds over. We became a problem for dfw ground control. Eventually got cleared to gate, had maintenance inspection done for overweight. 5 non revenue passenger removed. Taxied again. Again informed overweight for takeoff, but not taxi. We burned down gas to make weight. Bottom line, loads was behind from the get-go with multiple wrong information. I brought the operation to a halt at gate and worked with dispatch and loads to get the right information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MD80 FLC WERE INFORMED THAT THEY WERE OVERWT FOR TAXI. THEY RETURNED TO THE GATE FOR DOWNLOADING AND AN OVERWT INSPECTION. ON TAXI OUT, WERE OVERWT FOR TKOF. SOLVED BY HOLDING ON GND AND BURNING OFF FUEL.
Narrative: DURING TAXI OUT, RECEIVED MESSAGE OVER ACARS THAT OVERWT/STOP. CALLED DISPATCH/LOADS. INITIAL WAS WE WERE 5000 LBS OVER. WE BECAME A PROB FOR DFW GND CTL. EVENTUALLY GOT CLRED TO GATE, HAD MAINT INSPECTION DONE FOR OVERWT. 5 NON REVENUE PAX REMOVED. TAXIED AGAIN. AGAIN INFORMED OVERWT FOR TKOF, BUT NOT TAXI. WE BURNED DOWN GAS TO MAKE WT. BOTTOM LINE, LOADS WAS BEHIND FROM THE GET-GO WITH MULTIPLE WRONG INFO. I BROUGHT THE OP TO A HALT AT GATE AND WORKED WITH DISPATCH AND LOADS TO GET THE RIGHT INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.