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Reported situation in which a MO20 entered the airspace of 2 facilities without a handoff or interfacility coordination with the first facility.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 381749 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : chs |
| State Reference | SC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : chs tracon : flo tracon : myr |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 7 controller non radar : 6 controller radar : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 381749 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Radar was 'split' (east/west). I was working east during a moderately busy period. I had 6-7 other aircraft on my frequency at the time. I had just cleared a T38 for the hi-ILS runway 15 at chs, and just took a handoff on a heavy C141 landing at chs also. Meanwhile, the mooney (who was an overflt to the northeast) was nearing the boundary to myrtle beach approach. I tried to initiate an automated handoff to myr but received an 'interface failure.' I had my supervisor (as we had no flight data position staffed at the time) do a '6, 7, 10' amendment in the fdio in the hopes of being able to effect a handoff (automated) to myr. We tried -- still the 'if' problem. In the interim, the T38 was to do a low-approach and then stay with the tower for some VFR pattern work. I cleared the C141 for the TACAN approach and they had my supervisor 'ARTS force' the mooney's data to myr's computer. Right then, tower called and said he was sending the T38 back to us due to multiple departures and arrs. He (tower) then called back and said the T38 declared minimum fuel and could not accept going back to radar. I told the tower (local) controller to keep the T38 on his frequency and bring him back to the airport. All of this happened while I accepted another automated handoff on an IFR citation 525 landing at chs. I then canceled the approach clearance on the C141, climbed him and turned him east. The citation checked on and I vectored and descended him for the visual approach. The T38 then made it in. I vectored the C141 to follow the citation. After everyone made it in and things started to calm down, guess who calls? The mooney -- who's now 30 NM south of flo and wants a descent. (His position indicates that he not only wasn't in my airspace, he wasn't in myr's either (he had already flown through). He was in florence, sc, (flo) airspace. I quickly (desperately?) coordinated with myr who in turn did the same with flo. Flo radar idented him and asked us to switch the mooney to their frequency. In the end, the mooney never became a factor for other aircraft being controled by myr or flo (as far as I know).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED SIT IN WHICH A MO20 ENTERED THE AIRSPACE OF 2 FACILITIES WITHOUT A HDOF OR INTERFAC COORD WITH THE FIRST FACILITY.
Narrative: RADAR WAS 'SPLIT' (EAST/WEST). I WAS WORKING EAST DURING A MODERATELY BUSY PERIOD. I HAD 6-7 OTHER ACFT ON MY FREQ AT THE TIME. I HAD JUST CLRED A T38 FOR THE HI-ILS RWY 15 AT CHS, AND JUST TOOK A HDOF ON A HVY C141 LNDG AT CHS ALSO. MEANWHILE, THE MOONEY (WHO WAS AN OVERFLT TO THE NE) WAS NEARING THE BOUNDARY TO MYRTLE BEACH APCH. I TRIED TO INITIATE AN AUTOMATED HDOF TO MYR BUT RECEIVED AN 'INTERFACE FAILURE.' I HAD MY SUPVR (AS WE HAD NO FLT DATA POS STAFFED AT THE TIME) DO A '6, 7, 10' AMENDMENT IN THE FDIO IN THE HOPES OF BEING ABLE TO EFFECT A HDOF (AUTOMATED) TO MYR. WE TRIED -- STILL THE 'IF' PROB. IN THE INTERIM, THE T38 WAS TO DO A LOW-APCH AND THEN STAY WITH THE TWR FOR SOME VFR PATTERN WORK. I CLRED THE C141 FOR THE TACAN APCH AND THEY HAD MY SUPVR 'ARTS FORCE' THE MOONEY'S DATA TO MYR'S COMPUTER. RIGHT THEN, TWR CALLED AND SAID HE WAS SENDING THE T38 BACK TO US DUE TO MULTIPLE DEPS AND ARRS. HE (TWR) THEN CALLED BACK AND SAID THE T38 DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL AND COULD NOT ACCEPT GOING BACK TO RADAR. I TOLD THE TWR (LCL) CTLR TO KEEP THE T38 ON HIS FREQ AND BRING HIM BACK TO THE ARPT. ALL OF THIS HAPPENED WHILE I ACCEPTED ANOTHER AUTOMATED HDOF ON AN IFR CITATION 525 LNDG AT CHS. I THEN CANCELED THE APCH CLRNC ON THE C141, CLBED HIM AND TURNED HIM E. THE CITATION CHKED ON AND I VECTORED AND DSNDED HIM FOR THE VISUAL APCH. THE T38 THEN MADE IT IN. I VECTORED THE C141 TO FOLLOW THE CITATION. AFTER EVERYONE MADE IT IN AND THINGS STARTED TO CALM DOWN, GUESS WHO CALLS? THE MOONEY -- WHO'S NOW 30 NM S OF FLO AND WANTS A DSCNT. (HIS POS INDICATES THAT HE NOT ONLY WASN'T IN MY AIRSPACE, HE WASN'T IN MYR'S EITHER (HE HAD ALREADY FLOWN THROUGH). HE WAS IN FLORENCE, SC, (FLO) AIRSPACE. I QUICKLY (DESPERATELY?) COORDINATED WITH MYR WHO IN TURN DID THE SAME WITH FLO. FLO RADAR IDENTED HIM AND ASKED US TO SWITCH THE MOONEY TO THEIR FREQ. IN THE END, THE MOONEY NEVER BECAME A FACTOR FOR OTHER ACFT BEING CTLED BY MYR OR FLO (AS FAR AS I KNOW).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.