Narrative:

Upon arrival to ord, I was assigned a visual approach to runway 14L with a hold short restr at runway 22R. The ATIS stated that this allowed a landing distance of 4900 ft. I was trying to accommodate the controller and help expedite the flow of traffic. At our approach speed I was unable to bring the aircraft to a complete stop before the hold short line for runway 22R. My landing roll was completed approximately 10 ft past the hold short line for runway 22R. When it appeared that we might not be able to hold short of the runway, the controller asked if we received the hold short runway 22 clearance. I replied affirmative, as I thought we would be able to stop prior to the hold short line. An aircraft was landing on runway 22R at the time and he continued uneventfully and was not told to go around. I believe the 4900 ft of landing distance is misleading. If a normal glide path is flown down to the ground, you would land 1000 ft down and if you made the last turnoff you probably lose another 500 ft. Now you have approximately 3400 ft of stopping distance. At the heavy weight approach speed, the landing distance was marginal and I probably should not have accepted the clearance. Ord might rethink using runway 14L hold short of runway 22R, as the landing distance is right for most aircraft that operate at ord. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter is an first officer on the SF340B for an air carrier and he said that he received the clearance to land and hold short in plenty of time. He glanced at the airport data sheet supplied by his air carrier and noted that 4900 ft of runway were available which should have been adequate. He said that the captain had already accepted the clearance and he was comfortable because he thought that he had everything under control. However, later he realized that he did not understand the situation. The first officer said that he did not realize that he would only have 3900 ft available for stopping since he would have to touch down at the 1000 ft mark as per standard operational procedure. He also was carrying a little extra speed to counter a xctled condition in response to a crosswind. He said that he had temporarily forgotten about the hold short requirement until, after touchdown the captain suddenly started to apply the brakes. He gave control of the aircraft to the captain as he remembered the hold short provision. He also thought that the captain was, initially, applying too much braking. The first officer said that the SF340B has good brakes, but due to its low drag design, it does not slow down very well after touchdown. The hold short line for runway 22R came up far sooner than he expected, the first officer said. The aircraft stopped about 10 ft beyond the hold line, according to the reporter, but still not on the surface of runway 22R. Another air carrier was landing on runway 22R and it rolled out in front of the reporter's aircraft. The controller said, 'you did receive the hold short clearance didn't you?' according to the reporter. There was no other comment.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: THE FLC OF AN ACR SF340 ACCEPTED A LAND AND HOLD SHORT CLRNC, BUT WERE UNABLE TO PERFORM THE MANEUVER. AFTER TOUCHING DOWN ON RWY 14L, THEY CROSSED THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 22R, HOWEVER, THEY DID STOP SHORT OF RWY 22R'S PAVEMENT AND THE TFC FOR RWY 22R DID LAND AND CROSS IN FRONT OF THE RPTR'S ACFT.

Narrative: UPON ARR TO ORD, I WAS ASSIGNED A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 14L WITH A HOLD SHORT RESTR AT RWY 22R. THE ATIS STATED THAT THIS ALLOWED A LNDG DISTANCE OF 4900 FT. I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CTLR AND HELP EXPEDITE THE FLOW OF TFC. AT OUR APCH SPD I WAS UNABLE TO BRING THE ACFT TO A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 22R. MY LNDG ROLL WAS COMPLETED APPROX 10 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 22R. WHEN IT APPEARED THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE RECEIVED THE HOLD SHORT RWY 22 CLRNC. I REPLIED AFFIRMATIVE, AS I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP PRIOR TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE. AN ACFT WAS LNDG ON RWY 22R AT THE TIME AND HE CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY AND WAS NOT TOLD TO GAR. I BELIEVE THE 4900 FT OF LNDG DISTANCE IS MISLEADING. IF A NORMAL GLIDE PATH IS FLOWN DOWN TO THE GND, YOU WOULD LAND 1000 FT DOWN AND IF YOU MADE THE LAST TURNOFF YOU PROBABLY LOSE ANOTHER 500 FT. NOW YOU HAVE APPROX 3400 FT OF STOPPING DISTANCE. AT THE HVY WT APCH SPD, THE LNDG DISTANCE WAS MARGINAL AND I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED THE CLRNC. ORD MIGHT RETHINK USING RWY 14L HOLD SHORT OF RWY 22R, AS THE LNDG DISTANCE IS RIGHT FOR MOST ACFT THAT OPERATE AT ORD. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR IS AN FO ON THE SF340B FOR AN ACR AND HE SAID THAT HE RECEIVED THE CLRNC TO LAND AND HOLD SHORT IN PLENTY OF TIME. HE GLANCED AT THE ARPT DATA SHEET SUPPLIED BY HIS ACR AND NOTED THAT 4900 FT OF RWY WERE AVAILABLE WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADEQUATE. HE SAID THAT THE CAPT HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED THE CLRNC AND HE WAS COMFORTABLE BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT HE HAD EVERYTHING UNDER CTL. HOWEVER, LATER HE REALIZED THAT HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE SIT. THE FO SAID THAT HE DID NOT REALIZE THAT HE WOULD ONLY HAVE 3900 FT AVAILABLE FOR STOPPING SINCE HE WOULD HAVE TO TOUCH DOWN AT THE 1000 FT MARK AS PER STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROC. HE ALSO WAS CARRYING A LITTLE EXTRA SPD TO COUNTER A XCTLED CONDITION IN RESPONSE TO A XWIND. HE SAID THAT HE HAD TEMPORARILY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE HOLD SHORT REQUIREMENT UNTIL, AFTER TOUCHDOWN THE CAPT SUDDENLY STARTED TO APPLY THE BRAKES. HE GAVE CTL OF THE ACFT TO THE CAPT AS HE REMEMBERED THE HOLD SHORT PROVISION. HE ALSO THOUGHT THAT THE CAPT WAS, INITIALLY, APPLYING TOO MUCH BRAKING. THE FO SAID THAT THE SF340B HAS GOOD BRAKES, BUT DUE TO ITS LOW DRAG DESIGN, IT DOES NOT SLOW DOWN VERY WELL AFTER TOUCHDOWN. THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 22R CAME UP FAR SOONER THAN HE EXPECTED, THE FO SAID. THE ACFT STOPPED ABOUT 10 FT BEYOND THE HOLD LINE, ACCORDING TO THE RPTR, BUT STILL NOT ON THE SURFACE OF RWY 22R. ANOTHER ACR WAS LNDG ON RWY 22R AND IT ROLLED OUT IN FRONT OF THE RPTR'S ACFT. THE CTLR SAID, 'YOU DID RECEIVE THE HOLD SHORT CLRNC DIDN'T YOU?' ACCORDING TO THE RPTR. THERE WAS NO OTHER COMMENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.