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Operational deviation reported when a PA31 enters reporter's airspace without coordination from approach control resulting in an near midair collision with a C172.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382718 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : isp |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1100 msl bound upper : 1100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : isp |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | T-1020 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private |
| Experience | controller non radar : 17 controller radar : 3 flight time total : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 382718 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
N90 ny TRACON ran aircraft, PA31, into airspace without handing off the aircraft. Supervisor took handoff when I requested that the coordination be opened. I advised him N90 violated our airspace and he took no action. I also advised him I lost the picture. He still took the handoff. There was a facility evaluation going on, and when I advised the supervisor that N90 was violating our airspace with not 1 but 2 aircraft, he pulled out, and left the position. This incident was not reported, and if it were not for another controller the PA31 on the ILS (VFR) runway 6 practice approach would have hit the C172 on rd for runway 15R. The PA31 on the ILS runway 6 approach was one of the aircraft that the supervisor took the handoff '3 mi final at 600 ft.' there was nobody to open the lrac/coordination position. N90 frequently violates our airspace, but because the supervisors come from N90 they never report such incidents. There were other aircraft at the time being handed off and when we don't take the handoff they yell over the line, do you see north etc? They keep violating our airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPDEV RPTED WHEN A PA31 ENTERS RPTR'S AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORD FROM APCH CTL RESULTING IN AN NMAC WITH A C172.
Narrative: N90 NY TRACON RAN ACFT, PA31, INTO AIRSPACE WITHOUT HANDING OFF THE ACFT. SUPVR TOOK HDOF WHEN I REQUESTED THAT THE COORD BE OPENED. I ADVISED HIM N90 VIOLATED OUR AIRSPACE AND HE TOOK NO ACTION. I ALSO ADVISED HIM I LOST THE PICTURE. HE STILL TOOK THE HDOF. THERE WAS A FACILITY EVALUATION GOING ON, AND WHEN I ADVISED THE SUPVR THAT N90 WAS VIOLATING OUR AIRSPACE WITH NOT 1 BUT 2 ACFT, HE PULLED OUT, AND LEFT THE POS. THIS INCIDENT WAS NOT RPTED, AND IF IT WERE NOT FOR ANOTHER CTLR THE PA31 ON THE ILS (VFR) RWY 6 PRACTICE APCH WOULD HAVE HIT THE C172 ON RD FOR RWY 15R. THE PA31 ON THE ILS RWY 6 APCH WAS ONE OF THE ACFT THAT THE SUPVR TOOK THE HDOF '3 MI FINAL AT 600 FT.' THERE WAS NOBODY TO OPEN THE LRAC/COORD POS. N90 FREQUENTLY VIOLATES OUR AIRSPACE, BUT BECAUSE THE SUPVRS COME FROM N90 THEY NEVER RPT SUCH INCIDENTS. THERE WERE OTHER ACFT AT THE TIME BEING HANDED OFF AND WHEN WE DON'T TAKE THE HDOF THEY YELL OVER THE LINE, DO YOU SEE N ETC? THEY KEEP VIOLATING OUR AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.