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An air carrier B727 flight crew complains about the service they received during a night visual approach to runway 25L at las with a crosswind.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382780 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2179 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 382780 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Winds were 330 degrees 12 KTS gusting to 15. We were being vectored to a visual for runway 25L. To make life easier for ATC, they tried to have us call field in sight 15 NM out 90 degrees to the runway with a ridge of terrain clearly visible between us and field (6100 ft assigned altitude), to call traffic on 20-25 NM final for runway 25R who would then be behind us on approach, and to maintain as high a speed (200+ KTS) as long as possible. We got dropped off high and fast in a significant crosswind for a visual approach. Managed to make stabilized approach requirements with quick confign change. However, cockpit workload was extreme. All this to handle the few aircraft arriving.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 FLC COMPLAINS ABOUT THE SVC THEY RECEIVED DURING A NIGHT VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25L AT LAS WITH A XWIND.
Narrative: WINDS WERE 330 DEGS 12 KTS GUSTING TO 15. WE WERE BEING VECTORED TO A VISUAL FOR RWY 25L. TO MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR ATC, THEY TRIED TO HAVE US CALL FIELD IN SIGHT 15 NM OUT 90 DEGS TO THE RWY WITH A RIDGE OF TERRAIN CLRLY VISIBLE BTWN US AND FIELD (6100 FT ASSIGNED ALT), TO CALL TFC ON 20-25 NM FINAL FOR RWY 25R WHO WOULD THEN BE BEHIND US ON APCH, AND TO MAINTAIN AS HIGH A SPD (200+ KTS) AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. WE GOT DROPPED OFF HIGH AND FAST IN A SIGNIFICANT XWIND FOR A VISUAL APCH. MANAGED TO MAKE STABILIZED APCH REQUIREMENTS WITH QUICK CONFIGN CHANGE. HOWEVER, COCKPIT WORKLOAD WAS EXTREME. ALL THIS TO HANDLE THE FEW ACFT ARRIVING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.