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Tower sent another aircraft around while the flight crew of a north american sabreliner model 65 was still holding in position for takeoff. All communication xmissions had gone well until holding in position causing flight crew to believe that their aircraft communication system was not responding in the airport hold location. Therefore, it was not known if the aircraft equipment, ATC equipment or the airport location was the problem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 383140 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cmh |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Sabreliner 65 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 383140 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
The first 1000 ft of runway 28L were closed so all aircraft were departing west from taxiway F (marked on approach plate). The tower was spacing aircraft perfectly. 1 arrival, 1 departure, 1 arrival, etc. All xmissions were normal. An aircraft landed and we were cleared into position and hold. We were advised about traffic on final and saw it on our TCASII. We were in position with checklist completed ready to go but no clearance from the tower. We could see the TCASII target approaching the runway. We transmitted we were ready to go. I switched the #2 radio to tower frequency and transmitted (on #1 radio) 'do you want us to exit the runway?' at that time, the air carrier Y airbus announced it was going around. Then, a very scratchy transmission came from the tower 'do you read the tower on the backup frequency?' the tower asked the other aircraft waiting for takeoff if they had heard his repeated takeoff clrncs on the normal frequency, which they all replied they had. Obviously there was a radio dead spot at the intersection of runway 28L and taxiway F. Cmh tower routinely departs aircraft from this intersection -- to my knowledge with no problem. It is possible that our aircraft has a unique positioning of radio antenna which caused us to not hear the tower. I am unaware if anyone heard our 2 xmissions on the runway. The tower controller and airbus crew acted safely and professionally. Our next time in cmh I will request a radio test at that same intersection. Thank you for having this program. It is very important.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWR SENT ANOTHER ACFT AROUND WHILE THE FLC OF A NORTH AMERICAN SABRELINER MODEL 65 WAS STILL HOLDING IN POS FOR TKOF. ALL COM XMISSIONS HAD GONE WELL UNTIL HOLDING IN POS CAUSING FLC TO BELIEVE THAT THEIR ACFT COM SYS WAS NOT RESPONDING IN THE ARPT HOLD LOCATION. THEREFORE, IT WAS NOT KNOWN IF THE ACFT EQUIP, ATC EQUIP OR THE ARPT LOCATION WAS THE PROB.
Narrative: THE FIRST 1000 FT OF RWY 28L WERE CLOSED SO ALL ACFT WERE DEPARTING W FROM TXWY F (MARKED ON APCH PLATE). THE TWR WAS SPACING ACFT PERFECTLY. 1 ARR, 1 DEP, 1 ARR, ETC. ALL XMISSIONS WERE NORMAL. AN ACFT LANDED AND WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD. WE WERE ADVISED ABOUT TFC ON FINAL AND SAW IT ON OUR TCASII. WE WERE IN POS WITH CHKLIST COMPLETED READY TO GO BUT NO CLRNC FROM THE TWR. WE COULD SEE THE TCASII TARGET APCHING THE RWY. WE XMITTED WE WERE READY TO GO. I SWITCHED THE #2 RADIO TO TWR FREQ AND XMITTED (ON #1 RADIO) 'DO YOU WANT US TO EXIT THE RWY?' AT THAT TIME, THE ACR Y AIRBUS ANNOUNCED IT WAS GOING AROUND. THEN, A VERY SCRATCHY XMISSION CAME FROM THE TWR 'DO YOU READ THE TWR ON THE BACKUP FREQ?' THE TWR ASKED THE OTHER ACFT WAITING FOR TKOF IF THEY HAD HEARD HIS REPEATED TKOF CLRNCS ON THE NORMAL FREQ, WHICH THEY ALL REPLIED THEY HAD. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A RADIO DEAD SPOT AT THE INTXN OF RWY 28L AND TXWY F. CMH TWR ROUTINELY DEPARTS ACFT FROM THIS INTXN -- TO MY KNOWLEDGE WITH NO PROB. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OUR ACFT HAS A UNIQUE POSITIONING OF RADIO ANTENNA WHICH CAUSED US TO NOT HEAR THE TWR. I AM UNAWARE IF ANYONE HEARD OUR 2 XMISSIONS ON THE RWY. THE TWR CTLR AND AIRBUS CREW ACTED SAFELY AND PROFESSIONALLY. OUR NEXT TIME IN CMH I WILL REQUEST A RADIO TEST AT THAT SAME INTXN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS PROGRAM. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.