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Attributes | |
ACN | 383541 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 383541 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 383540 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach to runway 22R at ord ATC kept us at 5000 ft up to 10 mi final. At that point they turned a DC9 in front of us leaving only a 2 mi spread or slightly less according to TCASII. They then gave clearance for approach and maintain 180 KTS to final. This was ridiculous to say the least but, we gave it our best shot. On 2 mi final we went around as we were still too high and too close to the DC9 which was touching down. Executed go around and then a normal approach and landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 ON FINAL FOR RWY 22R MADE A GAR DUE TO HIGH ALT AND SPACING WITH THE ACFT IN FRONT.
Narrative: ON APCH TO RWY 22R AT ORD ATC KEPT US AT 5000 FT UP TO 10 MI FINAL. AT THAT POINT THEY TURNED A DC9 IN FRONT OF US LEAVING ONLY A 2 MI SPREAD OR SLIGHTLY LESS ACCORDING TO TCASII. THEY THEN GAVE CLRNC FOR APCH AND MAINTAIN 180 KTS TO FINAL. THIS WAS RIDICULOUS TO SAY THE LEAST BUT, WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT. ON 2 MI FINAL WE WENT AROUND AS WE WERE STILL TOO HIGH AND TOO CLOSE TO THE DC9 WHICH WAS TOUCHING DOWN. EXECUTED GAR AND THEN A NORMAL APCH AND LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.