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Attributes | |
ACN | 383740 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bet |
State Reference | AK |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : r50 enroute other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 383740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Ground radar tracked my aircraft a PA31-310 with TAS (true airspeed) of 170 KIAS at speeds greater than 200 KTS. At no time did DME, or LORAN, or GPS, give any ground speed greater than 195 KTS ever. In reference to far part 99 this aircraft should be exempt because the TAS is less than 180 KTS. This aircraft was on a company VFR flight plan, on a scheduled route, on an airway, in domestic service which has been in operation since sep/xx/97, both VFR and IFR. All VFR flight plans were company plans. Company operates this aircraft outside ADIZ on ruskokwan delta to iik-Z74-AK08-ook-AK4S and mvu, hpb, vak, scm, and czf. Why suddenly is the air defense radar questioning this aircraft? Suggest air defense radar should be recalibrated, or that controllers be trained in meteorology, ie, winds aloft effects on ground speed. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the air defense radar had shown him faster than 180 KTS both outbound and inbound through the ADIZ. Since this report was made, and sent to ATC, FSDO and the company director of operations, a DVFR flight plan has been added to the flight planning of these scheduled flts. He expects this action to illuminate the alarm created by the speed of the piper navajo aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A PAX SCHEDULED PIPER NAVAJO, PA31-310, WAS ACCUSED BY ATC OF EXCEEDING THE TRUE AIRSPD (TAS) OF 180 KTS THROUGH THE ALASKAN AIR DEFENSE IDENT ZONE (ADIZ) WITHOUT FILING A DVFR FLT PLAN. THE RPTR WAS ON A COMPANY FILED VFR FLT PLAN ONLY, WHICH WAS THE COMPANY PROC ESTABLISHED SINCE COMMENCING SCHEDULED OPS THE MONTH BEFORE.
Narrative: GND RADAR TRACKED MY ACFT A PA31-310 WITH TAS (TRUE AIRSPD) OF 170 KIAS AT SPDS GREATER THAN 200 KTS. AT NO TIME DID DME, OR LORAN, OR GPS, GIVE ANY GND SPD GREATER THAN 195 KTS EVER. IN REF TO FAR PART 99 THIS ACFT SHOULD BE EXEMPT BECAUSE THE TAS IS LESS THAN 180 KTS. THIS ACFT WAS ON A COMPANY VFR FLT PLAN, ON A SCHEDULED RTE, ON AN AIRWAY, IN DOMESTIC SVC WHICH HAS BEEN IN OP SINCE SEP/XX/97, BOTH VFR AND IFR. ALL VFR FLT PLANS WERE COMPANY PLANS. COMPANY OPERATES THIS ACFT OUTSIDE ADIZ ON RUSKOKWAN DELTA TO IIK-Z74-AK08-OOK-AK4S AND MVU, HPB, VAK, SCM, AND CZF. WHY SUDDENLY IS THE AIR DEFENSE RADAR QUESTIONING THIS ACFT? SUGGEST AIR DEFENSE RADAR SHOULD BE RECALIBRATED, OR THAT CTLRS BE TRAINED IN METEOROLOGY, IE, WINDS ALOFT EFFECTS ON GND SPD. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE AIR DEFENSE RADAR HAD SHOWN HIM FASTER THAN 180 KTS BOTH OUTBOUND AND INBOUND THROUGH THE ADIZ. SINCE THIS RPT WAS MADE, AND SENT TO ATC, FSDO AND THE COMPANY DIRECTOR OF OPS, A DVFR FLT PLAN HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE FLT PLANNING OF THESE SCHEDULED FLTS. HE EXPECTS THIS ACTION TO ILLUMINATE THE ALARM CREATED BY THE SPD OF THE PIPER NAVAJO ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.