Narrative:

While taxiing out to runway 23L, we were told to contact ground at spot Z. We began taxiing from gate. While taxiing out, I saw 3 numbers on the ground labeled X, Y, Z. When we got to #Z, I called ground and she told me we were not at spot #Z but instead at spot #X and to continue to spot #Z. We both checked our commercial chart and could not find spot #X, #Y or #Z. We continued taxiing to runway 23L. In front of taxiway B11 we were told to taxi to runway 23L intersection west. I told ground that we will need full length since we did not have takeoff data for intersection west. We were then told to taxi to runway 23L via intersection J. When we got to intersection J I asked ground if we were cleared to taxi across runway 28. She said yes, and to contact tower. We continued to taxi, I contacted tower and said we were ready for takeoff. He cleared us for takeoff. After departure, ZOB gave me a phone number to call. My captain was issued a pilot deviation report for crossing the runway 23L hold line. They said that there were 2 hold short lines on runway 28. The hold short lines are not marked on the commercial chart pages. Cle has so many nonstandard markings on the ground and they need to explain these markings. Local pilots may understand the markings, but to someone who does not fly out of there every day, it is confusing.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DC9 ACFT TAXIING AT CLE ARPT AND CLRED TO TAXI TO SPOT Z WHICH THE FLC COULD NOT LOCATE ON THE ARPT CHART. GND CTLR THEN CLRED ACFT TO RWY 23L AT TXWY W. FLC DIDN'T HAVE WTS FOR THE INTXN SO SAID THEY NEEDED FULL LENGTH RWY 23L. THEY WERE THEN CLRED VIA TXWY J AND WHEN FLC ASKED IF THEY WERE CLRED ACROSS RWY 28, CTLR TOLD THEM YES. AFTER TKOF FLC RECEIVED MESSAGE TO CALL CLE AND WAS TOLD A DEV HAD BEEN FILED FOR XING THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 23L. ARPT MARKINGS ARE RPTEDLY CONFUSING.

Narrative: WHILE TAXIING OUT TO RWY 23L, WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT GND AT SPOT Z. WE BEGAN TAXIING FROM GATE. WHILE TAXIING OUT, I SAW 3 NUMBERS ON THE GND LABELED X, Y, Z. WHEN WE GOT TO #Z, I CALLED GND AND SHE TOLD ME WE WERE NOT AT SPOT #Z BUT INSTEAD AT SPOT #X AND TO CONTINUE TO SPOT #Z. WE BOTH CHKED OUR COMMERCIAL CHART AND COULD NOT FIND SPOT #X, #Y OR #Z. WE CONTINUED TAXIING TO RWY 23L. IN FRONT OF TXWY B11 WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 23L INTXN W. I TOLD GND THAT WE WILL NEED FULL LENGTH SINCE WE DID NOT HAVE TKOF DATA FOR INTXN W. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 23L VIA INTXN J. WHEN WE GOT TO INTXN J I ASKED GND IF WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI ACROSS RWY 28. SHE SAID YES, AND TO CONTACT TWR. WE CONTINUED TO TAXI, I CONTACTED TWR AND SAID WE WERE READY FOR TKOF. HE CLRED US FOR TKOF. AFTER DEP, ZOB GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. MY CAPT WAS ISSUED A PLTDEV RPT FOR XING THE RWY 23L HOLD LINE. THEY SAID THAT THERE WERE 2 HOLD SHORT LINES ON RWY 28. THE HOLD SHORT LINES ARE NOT MARKED ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART PAGES. CLE HAS SO MANY NONSTANDARD MARKINGS ON THE GND AND THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN THESE MARKINGS. LCL PLTS MAY UNDERSTAND THE MARKINGS, BUT TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT FLY OUT OF THERE EVERY DAY, IT IS CONFUSING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.