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Operational error less than standard separation when 2 aircraft cross reporter's runway during landing. No lahso clearance was issued to the reporter.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 385036 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 385036 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
As we touched down, 2 aircraft crossed downfield. Land and hold short operations were indicated on the ATIS but we were never given a hold short clearance. We easily stopped short of taxiway ej and I felt that was safer than attempting a go around from on the runway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated the controller was very busy but brought it to the attention of the controller. Reporter alleges the controller then continued with duties without commentary to the reporter. About the incident. Reporter faults the system rather than the controller indicating they are told to expect something and then don't get it until the last min type of operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR LTSS WHEN 2 ACFT CROSS RPTR'S RWY DURING LNDG. NO LAHSO CLRNC WAS ISSUED TO THE RPTR.
Narrative: AS WE TOUCHED DOWN, 2 ACFT CROSSED DOWNFIELD. LAND AND HOLD SHORT OPS WERE INDICATED ON THE ATIS BUT WE WERE NEVER GIVEN A HOLD SHORT CLRNC. WE EASILY STOPPED SHORT OF TXWY EJ AND I FELT THAT WAS SAFER THAN ATTEMPTING A GAR FROM ON THE RWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY BUT BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTN OF THE CTLR. RPTR ALLEGES THE CTLR THEN CONTINUED WITH DUTIES WITHOUT COMMENTARY TO THE RPTR. ABOUT THE INCIDENT. RPTR FAULTS THE SYS RATHER THAN THE CTLR INDICATING THEY ARE TOLD TO EXPECT SOMETHING AND THEN DON'T GET IT UNTIL THE LAST MIN TYPE OF OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.