Reporter alleges the ZMA controller cleared a training flight for a practice NDB runway 11R approach...

Attributes
ACN	385699
Time
Date	199711
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : vrb
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 600 msl bound upper : 600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zma tower : vrb
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-34-220T Turbo Seneca III
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : circling arrival other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Hercules (C-130)
Operating Under FAR Part	other : other
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : circling arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : local
Qualification	controller : radar pilot : instrument pilot : private
Experience	controller non radar : 14 controller radar : 2 flight time total : 525
ASRS Report	385699
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 3000
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

ZMA provides approach control service. ZMA insists that they need not provide separation services to VFR aircraft on practice approachs. ZMA puts a VFR practice approach aircraft side-by-side with an IFR aircraft on intersecting approachs without so much as a TA, then hands them over to us. We get to 'orchestrate' the ensuing evasive maneuvering. The seneca was on the NDB runway 11R approach versus the C130 on the VOR runway 11R approach. The kicker to all this is that the approachs were to circle to runway 4. So, when I get the 2 planes on my frequency, since the piper is to the right of the C130 and the C130 must turn to the right, the first thing I must do is revoke the approach clearance and tell the seneca to turn right. This is no service to the seneca and defeats the purpose of practice approachs, aside from being unsafe and poor control technique. If I had a BRITE scope I could see this situation developing sooner and formulate a better response, but ZMA has radar and created the situation, so the only 2 solutions I can see are: 1) revise practice approach handling procedures at ZMA, or 2) establish a dedicated approach control facility for the vero beach/fort pierce area. Center has no clue about terminal airspace operations. This operation might be legal, but it's also stupid.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTR ALLEGES THE ZMA CTLR CLRED A TRAINING FLT FOR A PRACTICE NDB RWY 11R APCH AND AN IFR MIL C130 FOR A VOR RWY 11R APCH WITHOUT PROVIDING SEPARATION OR TA'S. BOTH ACFT WOULD CIRCLE TO RWY 4.

Narrative: ZMA PROVIDES APCH CTL SVC. ZMA INSISTS THAT THEY NEED NOT PROVIDE SEPARATION SVCS TO VFR ACFT ON PRACTICE APCHS. ZMA PUTS A VFR PRACTICE APCH ACFT SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH AN IFR ACFT ON INTERSECTING APCHS WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A TA, THEN HANDS THEM OVER TO US. WE GET TO 'ORCHESTRATE' THE ENSUING EVASIVE MANEUVERING. THE SENECA WAS ON THE NDB RWY 11R APCH VERSUS THE C130 ON THE VOR RWY 11R APCH. THE KICKER TO ALL THIS IS THAT THE APCHS WERE TO CIRCLE TO RWY 4. SO, WHEN I GET THE 2 PLANES ON MY FREQ, SINCE THE PIPER IS TO THE R OF THE C130 AND THE C130 MUST TURN TO THE R, THE FIRST THING I MUST DO IS REVOKE THE APCH CLRNC AND TELL THE SENECA TO TURN R. THIS IS NO SVC TO THE SENECA AND DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF PRACTICE APCHS, ASIDE FROM BEING UNSAFE AND POOR CTL TECHNIQUE. IF I HAD A BRITE SCOPE I COULD SEE THIS SIT DEVELOPING SOONER AND FORMULATE A BETTER RESPONSE, BUT ZMA HAS RADAR AND CREATED THE SIT, SO THE ONLY 2 SOLUTIONS I CAN SEE ARE: 1) REVISE PRACTICE APCH HANDLING PROCS AT ZMA, OR 2) ESTABLISH A DEDICATED APCH CTL FACILITY FOR THE VERO BEACH/FORT PIERCE AREA. CTR HAS NO CLUE ABOUT TERMINAL AIRSPACE OPS. THIS OP MIGHT BE LEGAL, BUT IT'S ALSO STUPID.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Reporter alleges the ZMA controller cleared a training flight for a practice NDB runway 11R approach and an IFR military C130 for a VOR runway 11R approach without providing separation or TA's. Both aircraft would circle to runway 4.