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Attributes | |
ACN | 385864 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zmp |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 385864 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
In cruise, lead flight attendant comes into cockpit visibly shaken and told us there was a gun hanging in forward lavatory. I recalled the notice to PIC of an armed law enforcement officer riding as a passenger and the captain sent the so back to talk to the agent to find out if the gun belonged to him. He confirmed it was his and after showing his identify and badge, was allowed to retrieve his firearm. The so observed that the agent was obviously a nervous flier and was sweating excessively. The agent was mortified by the fact that he had left his gun behind while freshening up. Our initial reaction was that this was a pretty funny incident. Since then, however, my feeling has changed. This could have been quite serious. Law enforcement officers are entrusted with the responsibility of carrying weapons on board aircraft and that responsibility is very serious. If a person is nervous about flying, that feeling might cloud his/her judgement should his services become needed. I have long been a proponent of everyone's right to own and carry a firearm, but I am very much against the carriage of loaded weapons on aircraft and this incident only underscores that feeling.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 ACFT IN CRUISE RECEIVED RPT FROM FLT ATTENDANT THAT A GUN WAS HANGING IN FORWARD LAVATORY. REMEMBERING A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WAS ON BOARD AND ARMED, FLC ASKED HIM IF THE GUN WAS HIS AND HE WAS MORTIFIED THAT HE HAD LEFT IT IN THE LAVATORY.
Narrative: IN CRUISE, LEAD FLT ATTENDANT COMES INTO COCKPIT VISIBLY SHAKEN AND TOLD US THERE WAS A GUN HANGING IN FORWARD LAVATORY. I RECALLED THE NOTICE TO PIC OF AN ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER RIDING AS A PAX AND THE CAPT SENT THE SO BACK TO TALK TO THE AGENT TO FIND OUT IF THE GUN BELONGED TO HIM. HE CONFIRMED IT WAS HIS AND AFTER SHOWING HIS IDENT AND BADGE, WAS ALLOWED TO RETRIEVE HIS FIREARM. THE SO OBSERVED THAT THE AGENT WAS OBVIOUSLY A NERVOUS FLIER AND WAS SWEATING EXCESSIVELY. THE AGENT WAS MORTIFIED BY THE FACT THAT HE HAD LEFT HIS GUN BEHIND WHILE FRESHENING UP. OUR INITIAL REACTION WAS THAT THIS WAS A PRETTY FUNNY INCIDENT. SINCE THEN, HOWEVER, MY FEELING HAS CHANGED. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN QUITE SERIOUS. LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE ENTRUSTED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CARRYING WEAPONS ON BOARD ACFT AND THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS VERY SERIOUS. IF A PERSON IS NERVOUS ABOUT FLYING, THAT FEELING MIGHT CLOUD HIS/HER JUDGEMENT SHOULD HIS SVCS BECOME NEEDED. I HAVE LONG BEEN A PROPONENT OF EVERYONE'S RIGHT TO OWN AND CARRY A FIREARM, BUT I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THE CARRIAGE OF LOADED WEAPONS ON ACFT AND THIS INCIDENT ONLY UNDERSCORES THAT FEELING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.