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PA28-161 aircraft on training flight at uncontrolled airport was on 45 degree entry when 2 other aircraft also were on the entry. The other aircraft broke off the approach due to near midair collision, but reporter continued on the approach because he was concerned that an evasive maneuver may interfere more with the other aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 386009 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : x47 |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 907 flight time type : 22 |
| ASRS Report | 386009 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We had only speaker inside cockpit on the 45 degree entry for l-hand traffic for runway 6 at X47. My foreign student was flying and I was looking for traffic. It was probably about 7-8 aircraft in the pattern and on the ground. Due to these distrs, I missed an aircraft coming in on 45 degree entry also. When I could hear that someone else was on the 45 degree, I saw behind me to the left and this aircraft and another coming from crosswind were on collision course, so one of them, or both, broke off their pattern. I was going to break my pattern off, now on downwind but realized that if I would turn out right, I would maybe create another convergence situation with the aircraft that broke off their pattern. I decided to continue on downwind and to resume the approach. It was not my intention to cut anybody off and I think that my corrective action should probably have been to circle above the airport before going in on the 45 degree entry, to scan for all possible traffic. I should also have turned the radio up to a louder volume in order to hear all the radio calls better through the engine sound. I should also have been taking into consideration the lack of communication between me and my foreign student!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28-161 ACFT ON TRAINING FLT AT UNCTLED ARPT WAS ON 45 DEG ENTRY WHEN 2 OTHER ACFT ALSO WERE ON THE ENTRY. THE OTHER ACFT BROKE OFF THE APCH DUE TO NMAC, BUT RPTR CONTINUED ON THE APCH BECAUSE HE WAS CONCERNED THAT AN EVASIVE MANEUVER MAY INTERFERE MORE WITH THE OTHER ACFT.
Narrative: WE HAD ONLY SPEAKER INSIDE COCKPIT ON THE 45 DEG ENTRY FOR L-HAND TFC FOR RWY 6 AT X47. MY FOREIGN STUDENT WAS FLYING AND I WAS LOOKING FOR TFC. IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 7-8 ACFT IN THE PATTERN AND ON THE GND. DUE TO THESE DISTRS, I MISSED AN ACFT COMING IN ON 45 DEG ENTRY ALSO. WHEN I COULD HEAR THAT SOMEONE ELSE WAS ON THE 45 DEG, I SAW BEHIND ME TO THE L AND THIS ACFT AND ANOTHER COMING FROM XWIND WERE ON COLLISION COURSE, SO ONE OF THEM, OR BOTH, BROKE OFF THEIR PATTERN. I WAS GOING TO BREAK MY PATTERN OFF, NOW ON DOWNWIND BUT REALIZED THAT IF I WOULD TURN OUT R, I WOULD MAYBE CREATE ANOTHER CONVERGENCE SIT WITH THE ACFT THAT BROKE OFF THEIR PATTERN. I DECIDED TO CONTINUE ON DOWNWIND AND TO RESUME THE APCH. IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO CUT ANYBODY OFF AND I THINK THAT MY CORRECTIVE ACTION SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN TO CIRCLE ABOVE THE ARPT BEFORE GOING IN ON THE 45 DEG ENTRY, TO SCAN FOR ALL POSSIBLE TFC. I SHOULD ALSO HAVE TURNED THE RADIO UP TO A LOUDER VOLUME IN ORDER TO HEAR ALL THE RADIO CALLS BETTER THROUGH THE ENG SOUND. I SHOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE LACK OF COM BTWN ME AND MY FOREIGN STUDENT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.