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LR35 aircraft in VFR climb was alerted to traffic by ATC. Reporter first officer idented an aircraft but it was the wrong one and by the time the flight crew saw the reported traffic they had an near midair collision.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 386023 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bdl |
| State Reference | CT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 13600 msl bound upper : 13600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zbw |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 14600 flight time type : 25 |
| ASRS Report | 386023 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Departed bdl VFR having requested VFR advisories to fit (approximately 58 NM trip). Climbing to 15500 ft, heading 063 degrees direct. Very busy, first trip in this early model lear 35, having spent 25 hours in the past 3 weeks in a late model lear. Different: autoplt, radios, switch position, thrust reversers, annunciators, etc. Never flown with this captain before. Crew coordination fair, verbal communications good. Issued traffic, 'BE1900 1:30 - 2 O'clock position 10 mi nwbound IFR 14000 ft.' idented traffic in that area. Advised PF we should level 13500 ft until clear. Observed that the traffic would pass behind us and mentioned this to PF. He asked direction traffic was proceeding. I advised northwest. I looked again and idented a conflict! Captain PF reduced power, shallowed the climb and turned right 15 degree bank (maximum achieved), not abrupt maneuver. I had initially idented the wrong traffic (further away). Advised PF of my error. Pilot of BE1900 chewed us out on the frequency, questioned our professionalism. I suppose he thought we planned to pass that close (not ever). He also asked if we had TCASII, seemed to assume we did. We didn't like the situation any more than he. See and avoid has its problems!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LR35 ACFT IN VFR CLB WAS ALERTED TO TFC BY ATC. RPTR FO IDENTED AN ACFT BUT IT WAS THE WRONG ONE AND BY THE TIME THE FLC SAW THE RPTED TFC THEY HAD AN NMAC.
Narrative: DEPARTED BDL VFR HAVING REQUESTED VFR ADVISORIES TO FIT (APPROX 58 NM TRIP). CLBING TO 15500 FT, HDG 063 DEGS DIRECT. VERY BUSY, FIRST TRIP IN THIS EARLY MODEL LEAR 35, HAVING SPENT 25 HRS IN THE PAST 3 WKS IN A LATE MODEL LEAR. DIFFERENT: AUTOPLT, RADIOS, SWITCH POS, THRUST REVERSERS, ANNUNCIATORS, ETC. NEVER FLOWN WITH THIS CAPT BEFORE. CREW COORD FAIR, VERBAL COMS GOOD. ISSUED TFC, 'BE1900 1:30 - 2 O'CLOCK POS 10 MI NWBOUND IFR 14000 FT.' IDENTED TFC IN THAT AREA. ADVISED PF WE SHOULD LEVEL 13500 FT UNTIL CLR. OBSERVED THAT THE TFC WOULD PASS BEHIND US AND MENTIONED THIS TO PF. HE ASKED DIRECTION TFC WAS PROCEEDING. I ADVISED NW. I LOOKED AGAIN AND IDENTED A CONFLICT! CAPT PF REDUCED PWR, SHALLOWED THE CLB AND TURNED R 15 DEG BANK (MAX ACHIEVED), NOT ABRUPT MANEUVER. I HAD INITIALLY IDENTED THE WRONG TFC (FURTHER AWAY). ADVISED PF OF MY ERROR. PLT OF BE1900 CHEWED US OUT ON THE FREQ, QUESTIONED OUR PROFESSIONALISM. I SUPPOSE HE THOUGHT WE PLANNED TO PASS THAT CLOSE (NOT EVER). HE ALSO ASKED IF WE HAD TCASII, SEEMED TO ASSUME WE DID. WE DIDN'T LIKE THE SIT ANY MORE THAN HE. SEE AND AVOID HAS ITS PROBS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.