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Flight crew of medium large transport is given taxi instructions but cannot locate the taxiway left sign and taxies to hold short line of runway. After making a 180 degree turn the ground controller tells them to turn. The signage for taxiway left was still not very visible.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 386407 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 386407 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 386713 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The event/situation that resulted from the following account was a near runway incursion. Reported WX during previous approach was 400 ft and 2.5 mi visibility. Actual WX encountered at conclusion of approach was about 1 mi and fog. Prior to push on next flight, the checklists, takeoff briefing, and taxi briefing were complete. After pushback was complete, the first officer called for taxi and ground control's taxi clearance was 'taxi to runway 5L, hold short of runway 5R at taxiway north.' clearance was read back on radio and in the cockpit. Both heads were up in the cockpit and eyes outside. The captain said his intended route was 'taxiway south, left on taxiway left to taxiway north.' a left turn out of the gate area was done onto taxiway south looking for taxiway left. Both pilots commented that the visibility was less than arrival. Signs or markings for taxiway left were not seen by either crew member and continued on taxiway south. The south edge of taxiway south taxi lights start a gradual turn towards the south as part of a higher speed exit off of runway 5R. This led the crew to think this was the lead-in to taxiway left. Runway edge lights and then the hold short lines were seen, and the aircraft was stopped prior to the runway. The captain made a left 130 degree turn on taxiway south and looked right for a taxiway left sign. The only sign for taxiway left the crew could see was on the west side of taxiway left and 200 ft south of taxiway south. At the time the aircraft made the 180 degree turn, ground control said 'that is runway 5 ahead.' the next ground transmission was a request for the captain to call the tower upon next arrival about a possible 'pilot deviation.' the tower was called and pilot notified that the ground radar showed them on the runway. To help prevent possible runway incursions, wide, multiple taxiway intxns should be well 'signed' and pavement markings used to better discern correct direction of intended taxi route.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG IS GIVEN TAXI INSTRUCTIONS BUT CANNOT LOCATE THE TXWY L SIGN AND TAXIES TO HOLD SHORT LINE OF RWY. AFTER MAKING A 180 DEG TURN THE GND CTLR TELLS THEM TO TURN. THE SIGNAGE FOR TXWY L WAS STILL NOT VERY VISIBLE.
Narrative: THE EVENT/SIT THAT RESULTED FROM THE FOLLOWING ACCOUNT WAS A NEAR RWY INCURSION. RPTED WX DURING PREVIOUS APCH WAS 400 FT AND 2.5 MI VISIBILITY. ACTUAL WX ENCOUNTERED AT CONCLUSION OF APCH WAS ABOUT 1 MI AND FOG. PRIOR TO PUSH ON NEXT FLT, THE CHKLISTS, TKOF BRIEFING, AND TAXI BRIEFING WERE COMPLETE. AFTER PUSHBACK WAS COMPLETE, THE FO CALLED FOR TAXI AND GND CTL'S TAXI CLRNC WAS 'TAXI TO RWY 5L, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 5R AT TXWY N.' CLRNC WAS READ BACK ON RADIO AND IN THE COCKPIT. BOTH HEADS WERE UP IN THE COCKPIT AND EYES OUTSIDE. THE CAPT SAID HIS INTENDED RTE WAS 'TXWY S, L ON TXWY L TO TXWY N.' A L TURN OUT OF THE GATE AREA WAS DONE ONTO TXWY S LOOKING FOR TXWY L. BOTH PLTS COMMENTED THAT THE VISIBILITY WAS LESS THAN ARR. SIGNS OR MARKINGS FOR TXWY L WERE NOT SEEN BY EITHER CREW MEMBER AND CONTINUED ON TXWY S. THE S EDGE OF TXWY S TAXI LIGHTS START A GRADUAL TURN TOWARDS THE S AS PART OF A HIGHER SPD EXIT OFF OF RWY 5R. THIS LED THE CREW TO THINK THIS WAS THE LEAD-IN TO TXWY L. RWY EDGE LIGHTS AND THEN THE HOLD SHORT LINES WERE SEEN, AND THE ACFT WAS STOPPED PRIOR TO THE RWY. THE CAPT MADE A L 130 DEG TURN ON TXWY S AND LOOKED R FOR A TXWY L SIGN. THE ONLY SIGN FOR TXWY L THE CREW COULD SEE WAS ON THE W SIDE OF TXWY L AND 200 FT S OF TXWY S. AT THE TIME THE ACFT MADE THE 180 DEG TURN, GND CTL SAID 'THAT IS RWY 5 AHEAD.' THE NEXT GND XMISSION WAS A REQUEST FOR THE CAPT TO CALL THE TWR UPON NEXT ARR ABOUT A POSSIBLE 'PLTDEV.' THE TWR WAS CALLED AND PLT NOTIFIED THAT THE GND RADAR SHOWED THEM ON THE RWY. TO HELP PREVENT POSSIBLE RWY INCURSIONS, WIDE, MULTIPLE TXWY INTXNS SHOULD BE WELL 'SIGNED' AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS USED TO BETTER DISCERN CORRECT DIRECTION OF INTENDED TAXI RTE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.