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Attributes | |
ACN | 388640 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pbi airport : fll |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011-1 100/200/250 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9200 flight time type : 452 |
ASRS Report | 388640 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft was given a crossing restr of 7000 ft at the mrlin intersection on the mrlin 4 arrival. There was a tailwind of approximately 65 KTS. I informed the captain that if he did not hurry we would not make the 7000 ft restr. His response was we're still X amount of mi, no problem. We were approximately 4 mins from the fix at FL240 when I told him a second time we would not make the restr. Once again I was informed that I was incorrect. We crossed over the point at 12000 ft descending. We reached 7000 ft approximately 7-10 NM past mrlin. I told the captain 3 times of the fact we would not make the restr. No changes were made to descent profile or any attempt to notify approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR L1011 PIC FAILS TO HEED THE WARNINGS OF HIS FO WHILE DSNDING AT AN INADEQUATE RATE OF DSCNT WITH A CLRNC TO CROSS MRLIN INTXN AT 7000 FT. HE CROSSED IT AT 12000 FT.
Narrative: ACFT WAS GIVEN A XING RESTR OF 7000 FT AT THE MRLIN INTXN ON THE MRLIN 4 ARR. THERE WAS A TAILWIND OF APPROX 65 KTS. I INFORMED THE CAPT THAT IF HE DID NOT HURRY WE WOULD NOT MAKE THE 7000 FT RESTR. HIS RESPONSE WAS WE'RE STILL X AMOUNT OF MI, NO PROB. WE WERE APPROX 4 MINS FROM THE FIX AT FL240 WHEN I TOLD HIM A SECOND TIME WE WOULD NOT MAKE THE RESTR. ONCE AGAIN I WAS INFORMED THAT I WAS INCORRECT. WE CROSSED OVER THE POINT AT 12000 FT DSNDING. WE REACHED 7000 FT APPROX 7-10 NM PAST MRLIN. I TOLD THE CAPT 3 TIMES OF THE FACT WE WOULD NOT MAKE THE RESTR. NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO DSCNT PROFILE OR ANY ATTEMPT TO NOTIFY APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.