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Attributes | |
ACN | 389220 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : roc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 389220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Captain flying, autoplt coupled, on profile. Due to a separation concern, tower broke us off of the approach with a right turn to 290 degrees and to climb back up to 2500 ft. We were just approaching 2000 ft with a descent rate of approximately 600 FPM. We were on the ILS to runway 22. Captain missed controller's instructions which I then repeated. He started a climbing right turn and commanded 'gear up.' this is not our go around procedure and for a second he had me confused per his request. Our go around procedures are 'maximum power, flaps 5 degrees, positive rate gear up, flaps up followed by appropriate checklist.' sloppily the aircraft was configured. By then, I noticed the airspeed past the aircraft's vfe speed for flaps 5 degrees and flaps were still in the 5 degree position. I immediately selected flaps 0 degrees. Why did this normal go around procedure turn into confusion? Very simply the PF, the captain, did not follow go around procedures. By not doing so, he confused me as to what he wanted. I, on the other hand, should have been more aggressive and just done the go around procedure myself. Enough cannot be said of the importance of sticking to sops.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF DH8 ON APCH IS GIVEN A GAR BY TWR. CAPT DOES NOT FOLLOW NORMAL COMPANY PROCS RESULTING IN CONFUSION FOR THE FO. THEY FINALLY GET THE ACFT IN PROPER CONFIGN AND MAKE THE GAR.
Narrative: CAPT FLYING, AUTOPLT COUPLED, ON PROFILE. DUE TO A SEPARATION CONCERN, TWR BROKE US OFF OF THE APCH WITH A R TURN TO 290 DEGS AND TO CLB BACK UP TO 2500 FT. WE WERE JUST APCHING 2000 FT WITH A DSCNT RATE OF APPROX 600 FPM. WE WERE ON THE ILS TO RWY 22. CAPT MISSED CTLR'S INSTRUCTIONS WHICH I THEN REPEATED. HE STARTED A CLBING R TURN AND COMMANDED 'GEAR UP.' THIS IS NOT OUR GAR PROC AND FOR A SECOND HE HAD ME CONFUSED PER HIS REQUEST. OUR GAR PROCS ARE 'MAX PWR, FLAPS 5 DEGS, POSITIVE RATE GEAR UP, FLAPS UP FOLLOWED BY APPROPRIATE CHKLIST.' SLOPPILY THE ACFT WAS CONFIGURED. BY THEN, I NOTICED THE AIRSPD PAST THE ACFT'S VFE SPD FOR FLAPS 5 DEGS AND FLAPS WERE STILL IN THE 5 DEG POS. I IMMEDIATELY SELECTED FLAPS 0 DEGS. WHY DID THIS NORMAL GAR PROC TURN INTO CONFUSION? VERY SIMPLY THE PF, THE CAPT, DID NOT FOLLOW GAR PROCS. BY NOT DOING SO, HE CONFUSED ME AS TO WHAT HE WANTED. I, ON THE OTHER HAND, SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE AND JUST DONE THE GAR PROC MYSELF. ENOUGH CANNOT BE SAID OF THE IMPORTANCE OF STICKING TO SOPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.