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Attributes | |
ACN | 389290 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : igb airport : gtr |
State Reference | MS |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zme |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 389290 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We received the clearance on the ground in gtr to aex. The clearance is as filed. The clearance is igb VOR J52 sidon. The captain was flying and we made a right turn off of runway 18 to join J52 which is the 266 degree radial off of igb. The controller questioned why we were not proceeding to the VOR first. I didn't know that we were expected to do so. I have done this trip many times in the past 2 yrs. I have always made the right turn off the airport and have never once been questioned on it. This clearance was unclr to us and we didn't at all realize we were doing anything wrong.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLC HAD A FLT PLAN FILED 'IGB VOR J52 SIDON AEX.' THE PIC MADE A R TURN OFF RWY 18 AWAY FROM THE VOR TO INTERCEPT THE 266 DEG RADIAL WHICH IS J52. THE ZME CTLR ASKED WHY THEY HAD NOT PROCEEDED TO THE VOR FIRST. FO QUESTIONS THE RATIONALE OF HIS REMARK.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED THE CLRNC ON THE GND IN GTR TO AEX. THE CLRNC IS AS FILED. THE CLRNC IS IGB VOR J52 SIDON. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND WE MADE A R TURN OFF OF RWY 18 TO JOIN J52 WHICH IS THE 266 DEG RADIAL OFF OF IGB. THE CTLR QUESTIONED WHY WE WERE NOT PROCEEDING TO THE VOR FIRST. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE EXPECTED TO DO SO. I HAVE DONE THIS TRIP MANY TIMES IN THE PAST 2 YRS. I HAVE ALWAYS MADE THE R TURN OFF THE ARPT AND HAVE NEVER ONCE BEEN QUESTIONED ON IT. THIS CLRNC WAS UNCLR TO US AND WE DIDN'T AT ALL REALIZE WE WERE DOING ANYTHING WRONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.