<< >> NASA ASRS Report 391538, January 1998

Taxiing LR35 crosses extended threshold of runway 32 at ilg, de. A landing C152 passed over them, missing them by 50 ft. LR35 was instructed to hold short of runway 32. Taxiway east uses the extended area of runway 32 and does not actually cross the physical runway.

Attributes
ACN	391538
Time
Date	199801
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ilg
State Reference	DE
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Learjet 35
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Cessna 152
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Route In Use	approach : straight in
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	391538
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 50
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was the PF as sic with a training captain who is also our company president and director of maintenance. After rolling out to the end of runway 19 at ilg, the captain (PNF) advised ground control we would taxi to FBO Y. Ground advised us to take taxiway east (I think it was taxiway east) and hold short of runway 32. We were busy running the after landing checklist while we started to taxi down taxiway east only to hear the ground controller yell at us because a C152 passed just 50 ft over our head while landing on runway 32. We missed the hold line because it does not bisect runway 32. The taxiway goes outside runway 32 but there is an 'approach area hold' which both of us have never seen before. This incident could have been avoided with better runway markings and a warning from the tower regarding an unusual hold line. Also, poor crew coordination was a factor.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: TAXIING LR35 CROSSES EXTENDED THRESHOLD OF RWY 32 AT ILG, DE. A LNDG C152 PASSED OVER THEM, MISSING THEM BY 50 FT. LR35 WAS INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 32. TXWY E USES THE EXTENDED AREA OF RWY 32 AND DOES NOT ACTUALLY CROSS THE PHYSICAL RWY.

Narrative: I WAS THE PF AS SIC WITH A TRAINING CAPT WHO IS ALSO OUR COMPANY PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF MAINT. AFTER ROLLING OUT TO THE END OF RWY 19 AT ILG, THE CAPT (PNF) ADVISED GND CTL WE WOULD TAXI TO FBO Y. GND ADVISED US TO TAKE TXWY E (I THINK IT WAS TXWY E) AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 32. WE WERE BUSY RUNNING THE AFTER LNDG CHKLIST WHILE WE STARTED TO TAXI DOWN TXWY E ONLY TO HEAR THE GND CTLR YELL AT US BECAUSE A C152 PASSED JUST 50 FT OVER OUR HEAD WHILE LNDG ON RWY 32. WE MISSED THE HOLD LINE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BISECT RWY 32. THE TXWY GOES OUTSIDE RWY 32 BUT THERE IS AN 'APCH AREA HOLD' WHICH BOTH OF US HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. THIS INCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED WITH BETTER RWY MARKINGS AND A WARNING FROM THE TWR REGARDING AN UNUSUAL HOLD LINE. ALSO, POOR CREW COORD WAS A FACTOR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.