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Attributes | |
ACN | 391861 |
Time | |
Date | 199801 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdu |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sdu tower : sdu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 9500 |
ASRS Report | 391861 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Clearance delivery gave us a routing of marcia 2 departure to boston, then flight planned route. After engine start, ground control issued a new clearance: after takeoff direct marcia, marcia 260 degree radial 70 DME, direct usaba. Since the marcia 2 departure had specific headings and radials inbound to marcia, I emphasized during readback that we were cleared direct marcia. Ground control rogered my readback. After takeoff we flew direct marcia. Upon arrival at marcia, departure control called us to tell us there was a published routing to marcia and proceeded to read the marcia 2 routing to us. The captain strongly emphasized that our clearance was direct marcia, not the SID. Due to language difficulties, I'm not sure he (the controller) really understood the problem. The problem, as I see it, is one of language. I am not sure the ground controller understood the significance of the word 'direct.' I am not sure he picked up on my strong emphasis on the word 'direct' in the readback. In view of the air carrier accident at cali, I feel it is important to call attention once again to controller qualifications in south america. Langauge and standard ATC procedures seem remedial in this part of the world. Final note: before flying direct marcia as cleared, we reviewed all charts to ensure safe terrain clearance was available.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B767 FLC RPTS BEING CLRED DIRECT TO A POINT IN FOREIGN AIRSPACE ONLY TO FIND THAT THE CTLR APPARENTLY MEANT FOR THEM TO PERFORM THE SID.
Narrative: CLRNC DELIVERY GAVE US A ROUTING OF MARCIA 2 DEP TO BOSTON, THEN FLT PLANNED RTE. AFTER ENG START, GND CTL ISSUED A NEW CLRNC: AFTER TKOF DIRECT MARCIA, MARCIA 260 DEG RADIAL 70 DME, DIRECT USABA. SINCE THE MARCIA 2 DEP HAD SPECIFIC HEADINGS AND RADIALS INBOUND TO MARCIA, I EMPHASIZED DURING READBACK THAT WE WERE CLRED DIRECT MARCIA. GND CTL ROGERED MY READBACK. AFTER TKOF WE FLEW DIRECT MARCIA. UPON ARR AT MARCIA, DEP CTL CALLED US TO TELL US THERE WAS A PUBLISHED ROUTING TO MARCIA AND PROCEEDED TO READ THE MARCIA 2 ROUTING TO US. THE CAPT STRONGLY EMPHASIZED THAT OUR CLRNC WAS DIRECT MARCIA, NOT THE SID. DUE TO LANGUAGE DIFFICULTIES, I'M NOT SURE HE (THE CTLR) REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE PROB. THE PROB, AS I SEE IT, IS ONE OF LANGUAGE. I AM NOT SURE THE GND CTLR UNDERSTOOD THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WORD 'DIRECT.' I AM NOT SURE HE PICKED UP ON MY STRONG EMPHASIS ON THE WORD 'DIRECT' IN THE READBACK. IN VIEW OF THE ACR ACCIDENT AT CALI, I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT TO CALL ATTN ONCE AGAIN TO CTLR QUALIFICATIONS IN SOUTH AMERICA. LANGAUGE AND STANDARD ATC PROCS SEEM REMEDIAL IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD. FINAL NOTE: BEFORE FLYING DIRECT MARCIA AS CLRED, WE REVIEWED ALL CHARTS TO ENSURE SAFE TERRAIN CLRNC WAS AVAILABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.