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Commander 690D on training flight with nervous student overshot assigned altitudes, both in climb and descent.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 395519 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199802 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pwa |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Commander 900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 395519 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 35 |
| ASRS Report | 395520 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Very nervous student checking out in 690D commander. After takeoff pilot made 15 degree left turn for takeoff assigned heading. Turn was early and created conflict with a departing trainer. While looking for other traffic climbed 300 ft above assigned altitude. Instructor action -- level and descend aircraft. During climb out with 9000 ft MSL assigned, student flying, instructor called out 1000 ft to go, 500 ft to go, 100 ft to go. Student flew 300 ft above assigned altitude. Instructor leveled aircraft and descended to 9000 ft. During simulated emergency descent from FL210 with 10000 ft assigned. Instructor called 1000 ft to go, 500 ft to go, 100 ft to go. Attempted to level aircraft, but excessive descent rate caused another altitude bust. Instructor action was to level as soon as possible and cancel IFR. Student did not pass.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMANDER 690D ON TRAINING FLT WITH NERVOUS STUDENT OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALTS, BOTH IN CLB AND DSCNT.
Narrative: VERY NERVOUS STUDENT CHKING OUT IN 690D COMMANDER. AFTER TKOF PLT MADE 15 DEG L TURN FOR TKOF ASSIGNED HEADING. TURN WAS EARLY AND CREATED CONFLICT WITH A DEPARTING TRAINER. WHILE LOOKING FOR OTHER TFC CLBED 300 FT ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT. INSTRUCTOR ACTION -- LEVEL AND DSND ACFT. DURING CLBOUT WITH 9000 FT MSL ASSIGNED, STUDENT FLYING, INSTRUCTOR CALLED OUT 1000 FT TO GO, 500 FT TO GO, 100 FT TO GO. STUDENT FLEW 300 FT ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT. INSTRUCTOR LEVELED ACFT AND DSNDED TO 9000 FT. DURING SIMULATED EMER DSCNT FROM FL210 WITH 10000 FT ASSIGNED. INSTRUCTOR CALLED 1000 FT TO GO, 500 FT TO GO, 100 FT TO GO. ATTEMPTED TO LEVEL ACFT, BUT EXCESSIVE DSCNT RATE CAUSED ANOTHER ALT BUST. INSTRUCTOR ACTION WAS TO LEVEL ASAP AND CANCEL IFR. STUDENT DID NOT PASS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.