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Attributes | |
ACN | 395852 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 395852 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 396006 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Approaching bossie intersection inbound during IMC approach received RA to climb. Targets on TCASII merged. Passenger reported aircraft passed underneath us. After climb, completed another approach to landing. WX was 100 overcast and 1 mi visibility. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: both aircraft were at 5000 ft in IMC conditions. Reporter called the facility and was told it was an operational error with quoted separation of 100 ft and 1.7 mi separation. Reporter reiterated that the passenger saw the aircraft pass under their aircraft during the climb. They were on the tower frequency and after climbing received instructions by the local controller to turn immediately to the right reference the traffic which by then they had climbed to 5500 ft and had broken out of the clouds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED TCASII RA CLB TO AVOID TFC WHILE ON AN IMC APCH TO DFW.
Narrative: APCHING BOSSIE INTXN INBOUND DURING IMC APCH RECEIVED RA TO CLB. TARGETS ON TCASII MERGED. PAX RPTED ACFT PASSED UNDERNEATH US. AFTER CLB, COMPLETED ANOTHER APCH TO LNDG. WX WAS 100 OVCST AND 1 MI VISIBILITY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: BOTH ACFT WERE AT 5000 FT IN IMC CONDITIONS. RPTR CALLED THE FACILITY AND WAS TOLD IT WAS AN OPERROR WITH QUOTED SEPARATION OF 100 FT AND 1.7 MI SEPARATION. RPTR REITERATED THAT THE PAX SAW THE ACFT PASS UNDER THEIR ACFT DURING THE CLB. THEY WERE ON THE TWR FREQ AND AFTER CLBING RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS BY THE LCL CTLR TO TURN IMMEDIATELY TO THE R REF THE TFC WHICH BY THEN THEY HAD CLBED TO 5500 FT AND HAD BROKEN OUT OF THE CLOUDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.