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Attributes | |
ACN | 396011 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : wv62 |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 22 flight time total : 320 flight time type : 130 |
ASRS Report | 396011 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Occupants of plane: pilot, 110 pounds, my teenage son, 198 pounds. Other: 30 pounds ski equipment, 50 pounds survival equipment. Runway: WV62 3000 ft runway, runway was dry -- snow banks around runway. Wind: from windsock left quartering headwind 8-10 KTS, maybe a little more. Traffic pattern altitude: 4200 ft. Airfield elevation: 3210 ft. 1) overflew airport at 5000 ft to check winds. 2) entered upwind for runway 6, then crosswind, downwind. 3) was at 3600 ft when turning base to final. 4) put in 30 degrees flaps (in 10 degree increments as standard). 5) to track centerline was crabbed left into wind, left wing low. 6) approach speed was 75 mph due to winds which tend to gust in area. 7) landed, bounced, and floated (realize now it would have been better to land at 65 mph instead of 75 mph and possibly 40 degree of flaps). 8) only 1500 ft of runway was left when I landed. 9) since there is a ditch, hill, and trees on the end of runway 24 and I would have had to bank left, decided since my son was in the plane not to attempt a go around (this was the human factor decision) with my son's weight and gear -- not sure I could clear mountain without stalling plane. 10) I wanted to keep the plane on the end of the runway and in turning I hit the left wing on snow bank then pavement and the plane ended up in the snow drift (was packed ice). Had begun shutdown -- gas was off, throttle out, was pulling mixture out when I hit. Damage to plane: 1) left wing bent at leading edge. Bent with hole -- possibly made from ice. 2) cowling bent. 3) propeller bent. Ways this could have been prevented by: a) slower approach speed and possibly 40 degrees of flaps on final. B) initiate go around sooner. Remedial: have been doing my short field lndgs at a controled field with smooth runway, have contacted CFI to go for practice at some smaller fields with rougher more uneven runway. FAA is aware of incident. Wv is a small state. Hope they are not going to throw the book at me. I am a safe pilot. I feel this was an error in my judgement as I am used to landing on larger fields and realize I need some practice at smaller fields with rougher surfaces and practice short field lndgs, gars in other than ideal conditions. This is what I plan on doing. If the FAA makes me take my check ride all over again, feel this would be a little excessive. On a lighter note: my son says he will still come fly with me. When we hit the snow bank he said 'my god, mother.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 LNDG AT WV62, WV, LANDS LONG, BOUNCES, AND DURING ROLLOUT, TAXIES INTO A SNOW BANK, CAUSING SOME DAMAGE TO THE ACFT.
Narrative: OCCUPANTS OF PLANE: PLT, 110 LBS, MY TEENAGE SON, 198 LBS. OTHER: 30 LBS SKI EQUIP, 50 LBS SURVIVAL EQUIP. RWY: WV62 3000 FT RWY, RWY WAS DRY -- SNOW BANKS AROUND RWY. WIND: FROM WINDSOCK L QUARTERING HEADWIND 8-10 KTS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE. TFC PATTERN ALT: 4200 FT. AIRFIELD ELEVATION: 3210 FT. 1) OVERFLEW ARPT AT 5000 FT TO CHK WINDS. 2) ENTERED UPWIND FOR RWY 6, THEN XWIND, DOWNWIND. 3) WAS AT 3600 FT WHEN TURNING BASE TO FINAL. 4) PUT IN 30 DEGS FLAPS (IN 10 DEG INCREMENTS AS STANDARD). 5) TO TRACK CTRLINE WAS CRABBED L INTO WIND, L WING LOW. 6) APCH SPD WAS 75 MPH DUE TO WINDS WHICH TEND TO GUST IN AREA. 7) LANDED, BOUNCED, AND FLOATED (REALIZE NOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO LAND AT 65 MPH INSTEAD OF 75 MPH AND POSSIBLY 40 DEG OF FLAPS). 8) ONLY 1500 FT OF RWY WAS LEFT WHEN I LANDED. 9) SINCE THERE IS A DITCH, HILL, AND TREES ON THE END OF RWY 24 AND I WOULD HAVE HAD TO BANK L, DECIDED SINCE MY SON WAS IN THE PLANE NOT TO ATTEMPT A GAR (THIS WAS THE HUMAN FACTOR DECISION) WITH MY SON'S WT AND GEAR -- NOT SURE I COULD CLR MOUNTAIN WITHOUT STALLING PLANE. 10) I WANTED TO KEEP THE PLANE ON THE END OF THE RWY AND IN TURNING I HIT THE L WING ON SNOW BANK THEN PAVEMENT AND THE PLANE ENDED UP IN THE SNOW DRIFT (WAS PACKED ICE). HAD BEGUN SHUTDOWN -- GAS WAS OFF, THROTTLE OUT, WAS PULLING MIXTURE OUT WHEN I HIT. DAMAGE TO PLANE: 1) L WING BENT AT LEADING EDGE. BENT WITH HOLE -- POSSIBLY MADE FROM ICE. 2) COWLING BENT. 3) PROP BENT. WAYS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY: A) SLOWER APCH SPD AND POSSIBLY 40 DEGS OF FLAPS ON FINAL. B) INITIATE GAR SOONER. REMEDIAL: HAVE BEEN DOING MY SHORT FIELD LNDGS AT A CTLED FIELD WITH SMOOTH RWY, HAVE CONTACTED CFI TO GO FOR PRACTICE AT SOME SMALLER FIELDS WITH ROUGHER MORE UNEVEN RWY. FAA IS AWARE OF INCIDENT. WV IS A SMALL STATE. HOPE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO THROW THE BOOK AT ME. I AM A SAFE PLT. I FEEL THIS WAS AN ERROR IN MY JUDGEMENT AS I AM USED TO LNDG ON LARGER FIELDS AND REALIZE I NEED SOME PRACTICE AT SMALLER FIELDS WITH ROUGHER SURFACES AND PRACTICE SHORT FIELD LNDGS, GARS IN OTHER THAN IDEAL CONDITIONS. THIS IS WHAT I PLAN ON DOING. IF THE FAA MAKES ME TAKE MY CHK RIDE ALL OVER AGAIN, FEEL THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. ON A LIGHTER NOTE: MY SON SAYS HE WILL STILL COME FLY WITH ME. WHEN WE HIT THE SNOW BANK HE SAID 'MY GOD, MOTHER.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.