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Pilot of a C185 penetrated class C airspace when he was delayed in contacting approach control during climb out from a nearby airport. He was opening his flight plan with FSS and was given a repeat WX briefing of what he had already received prior to takeoff. The approach controller did not mention his intrusion.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 397660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rno airport : 4sd |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7200 msl bound upper : 7200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skywagon 185 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 397660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After runway 27 takeoff at 4SD, I did a right downwind departure. Called FSS to activate VFR flight plan. FSS took several mins to respond to my call. After activating my flight plan the specialist asked if I had the WX advisories for my route. I said that I did, having got a WX briefing prior to takeoff. He read them to me anyway. By this time I was rapidly approaching rno class C. I called reno approach but the controller was busy and didn't respond immediately. I began a turn to avoid class C when the controller called asking for my call sign. After I gave him my call sign he called back my call sign and cleared me through the class C. I may have just nicked the edge of class C prior to establishing 2- way communication. To prevent this I should have allowed more time for communication with FSS and the specialist should not have read me the flight precautions after I declined them. I was not prepared for the delay in contacting rno approach caused by the specialist reading the flight precautions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A C185 PENETRATED CLASS C AIRSPACE WHEN HE WAS DELAYED IN CONTACTING APCH CTL DURING CLBOUT FROM A NEARBY ARPT. HE WAS OPENING HIS FLT PLAN WITH FSS AND WAS GIVEN A REPEAT WX BRIEFING OF WHAT HE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED PRIOR TO TKOF. THE APCH CTLR DID NOT MENTION HIS INTRUSION.
Narrative: AFTER RWY 27 TKOF AT 4SD, I DID A R DOWNWIND DEP. CALLED FSS TO ACTIVATE VFR FLT PLAN. FSS TOOK SEVERAL MINS TO RESPOND TO MY CALL. AFTER ACTIVATING MY FLT PLAN THE SPECIALIST ASKED IF I HAD THE WX ADVISORIES FOR MY RTE. I SAID THAT I DID, HAVING GOT A WX BRIEFING PRIOR TO TKOF. HE READ THEM TO ME ANYWAY. BY THIS TIME I WAS RAPIDLY APCHING RNO CLASS C. I CALLED RENO APCH BUT THE CTLR WAS BUSY AND DIDN'T RESPOND IMMEDIATELY. I BEGAN A TURN TO AVOID CLASS C WHEN THE CTLR CALLED ASKING FOR MY CALL SIGN. AFTER I GAVE HIM MY CALL SIGN HE CALLED BACK MY CALL SIGN AND CLRED ME THROUGH THE CLASS C. I MAY HAVE JUST NICKED THE EDGE OF CLASS C PRIOR TO ESTABLISHING 2- WAY COM. TO PREVENT THIS I SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED MORE TIME FOR COM WITH FSS AND THE SPECIALIST SHOULD NOT HAVE READ ME THE FLT PRECAUTIONS AFTER I DECLINED THEM. I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THE DELAY IN CONTACTING RNO APCH CAUSED BY THE SPECIALIST READING THE FLT PRECAUTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.